Protestantism

» Brian Tubbs - Knowledge and Fact

In response to Knowledge and Fact posted by pink101:

Without going into any detail, it is pretty obvious that comets are a good example of how knowledge has changed over the centuries

If we understand knowledge to be one's perspective holding or possession of information....then, yes. Our knowledge indeed changes. Doctors in the 15th century didn't know as much about the human body as they know today. BUT....the human body was still the same.

» pink101 - Knowledge and Fact

In response to Knowledge and Fact posted by BrianTubbs:

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You hit the nail on the head.
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Certainly the human body is the same; but, the perceptions are different and that is my point.
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Truth is--so often--only a perception in the final analysis. And, our perception in the twenty-first century is much different that it was in the ffirst century--way different.
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-- posted by pink101

» Brian Tubbs - Knowledge and Fact

In response to Knowledge and Fact posted by pink101:

IF WE ARE IN AGREEMENT on my previous post, then what this boils down to is NOT an issue of whether Truth exists, but rather our capacity to understand Truth. It seems that what you are calling into question is the ability of the human race to KNOW Truth.

» pink101 - Knowledge and Fact

In response to Knowledge and Fact posted by BrianTubbs:

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It seems that what you are calling into question is the ability of the human race to KNOW Truth.
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That may be so. But, it is more than that. I think we can say that our criteria for defining truth can and does change.
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So, it is much more about how truth claims are legitimatized. What authority shall we accede to in any particular case? That's a big question postmodernists face.
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-- posted by pink101

» Brian Tubbs - Knowledge and Fact

In response to Knowledge and Fact posted by pink101:

I think that we, in these post-modern times, are OVER-complicating the issue. There are some things that are clearly true.

» pink101 - Knowledge and Fact

In response to Knowledge and Fact posted by BrianTubbs:

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And some things that fluctuate.
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» Brian Tubbs - Bringing this back on point...

In response to Knowledge and Fact posted by pink101:

If Jesus claimed to be divine, that's not something that fluctuates. Either he did or he didn't. If Jesus was crucified, that is a fact that does not fluctuate over time. Either he was crucified or he was not. If Jesus rose from the dead, THAT is not something that fluctuates. Either he did or he didn't. And so forth.

» Brian Tubbs - Law of Non-Contradiction

Watch this video from Frank Turek on "Does Truth Exist?" - specifically what he says about the law of non-contradiction.

http://www.leestrobel.com/videoserver/vi...

» pink101 - Bringing this back on point...

In response to Bringing this back on point... posted by BrianTubbs:
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And so forth.
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So, where is it written that one must accept these "two truths" as basic to Christianity or they will not be saved from their sins?
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That's the question the stranger is asking.
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Do you have an answer?
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It seems to me that if these points are SO VERY IMPORTANT, then they must be itemized as such in the Bible.
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Otherwise, they are made up to be of such great importance.
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Where--in the Bible--is it stated that one must believe these two points or they are to be cast out for all eternity?
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-- posted by pink101

» Brian Tubbs - Romans 10

In response to Bringing this back on point... posted by pink101:

In his letter to the church at Rome, Paul lays this out clearly in Romans 10:9...

"If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus..."

The "mouth" refers of course to your communicative will - your decision to articulate what you have committed to. And the fact that you are told to confess the Lord Jesus means that you have acknowledged three things:

1. Jesus is real
2. Jesus is Lord
3. You are confessing or declaring belief in Jesus

"...and believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead..."

That means you are acknowledging that Jesus was crucified, that he died, and that he rose from the dead - that you not only believe it, but you're staking your faith on it!

"...you shall be saved."

Seems pretty clear to me.