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31.   Mar 11, 2008 7:49 AM

» pink101 - ERATA

In response to Bifurcation posted by pink101:


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This line in the last post is incorrect and should be disregarded: "It was put together by an old friend of mine:"
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Same name, wrong person.

-- posted by pink101


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32.   Mar 11, 2008 10:59 AM

» Migisi - Bifurcation

In response to Bifurcation posted by pink101:


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"embodiment of their personal experience" does not square with the way "things" are.
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Hmm. The way things are IS the embodiment of my personal experience. Maybe I'm not the one to ask?
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-- posted by Migisi


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33.   Mar 11, 2008 11:02 AM

» Migisi - Criticizing Feminism

In response to Criticizing Feminism posted by BrianTubbs:


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We still have not defined feminism.
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Go ahead and define it, Bri. You first. happy

-- posted by Migisi


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34.   Mar 11, 2008 2:07 PM

» pink101 - Bifurcation

In response to Bifurcation posted by Migisi:


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Maybe I'm not the one to ask?
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Well, let's take a look at the way things are, okay?
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Have you ever noticed something called the glass ceiling? Did you ever hear that men get paid more than women for doing the same job? And, that might be just the most obvious. Have you seen the two Power Points I linked? Speaking of the way things are, that is.
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-- posted by pink101


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35.   Mar 11, 2008 4:18 PM

» pink101 - Just In Case

In response to Bifurcation posted by pink101:
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Just in case you aren't able to bring it up from the other link, here is a more direct one: http://www.unc.edu/~nielsen/soci250/m16/...
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Click on open and hit return to move through the frames.
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I'm sure you will find it informative.
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And, I don't think anyone is going to "define" Feminism.
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-- posted by pink101


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36.   Mar 11, 2008 8:02 PM

» Feature Writer Brian Tubbs - Defining Feminism

In response to Criticizing Feminism posted by Migisi:


Nice try, Migisi. happy I smell a set up.

I would say two things...

1. I'm not sure that a man is the best person to define "feminism." happy

2. Were I forced to do so, I would have to do so within my western (and specifically American) framework. Accordingly, the first place I'd look is the origin of the women's movement in America, from Abigail Adams and Dolley Madison through the Seneca Falls Convention. That would be my starting point.

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37.   Mar 12, 2008 4:24 AM

» pink101 - Defining Feminism

In response to Defining Feminism posted by BrianTubbs:


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I smell a set up.
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You are the one who begged the question; so, why do you think there is a "set up"?
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And, it's not necessary to recount the history of the world to speak to the issues of Feminism. While Feminism does deal with gender, a person does not have to be a woman to understand it as we are--each one of us--affected by the same "things" about which Feminism complains.
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And, if you HAVE read much of the "scholarship", then, you should be able to speak plainly to the subject.
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Go for it.
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-- posted by pink101


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38.   Mar 12, 2008 1:11 PM

» Migisi - Defining Feminism

In response to Defining Feminism posted by BrianTubbs:


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Come on, Bri. Give it a whirl. Be brave, lil' buckaroo. happy
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I didn't ask you as a set up. Really, I didn't. I'm interested in hearing your 30-sumthin' views on what feminism is/means today. I'm aware of feminist history, so we really don't have to rehash it. But, if you'd like to study the key characters involved in the three feminist phases, I'll follow along. Lead on, Bri.

-- posted by Migisi


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39.   Mar 12, 2008 1:16 PM

» Migisi - Bifurcation

In response to Bifurcation posted by pink101:


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I'll get back to you on this, Pink. I did go to the links you offered, but there was much to sort through, and lots of socio-speak I didn't understand. I must be dense. 'Glass ceiling' I understand. Can you offer more simple examples of bifurcation for me?
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I just popped in for a minute here. I'll be back later.

-- posted by Migisi


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40.   Mar 12, 2008 1:30 PM

» pink101 - Bifurcation

In response to Bifurcation posted by Migisi:


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Bifurcation is defined as the "distinction between the world as we experience it and the world as we have come to know it through the conceptual frameworks that science invents."
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That's where the idea that you are the "embodiment" of your personal experience fits in.
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-- posted by pink101


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