Protestantism

» Brian Tubbs - First, Second, Third, Etc.

In response to First, Second, Third, Etc. posted by pink101:

This is often true, but not always. Quite often, churches spin off or "plant" or start (whatever verb / term you prefer) other churches by design. This is, in fact, encouraged by many congregations.

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» pink101 - First, Second, Third, Etc.

In response to First, Second, Third, Etc. posted by BrianTubbs:

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Usually, when churches help found others by design, the others are most often ethnic or in some depressed area.
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-- posted by pink101

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» redback - First, Second, Third, Etc.

In response to First, Second, Third, Etc. posted by pink101:

Me...I count funny. I thought 4,5 6 or more local parishes = one church. We have a mega church here by one idea...the Hillsong...but it'd be probably unkind to expect all churches to catch up to the TV-ready brand Hillsong style productions...and unkind to expect those who get their message from Hillsong to find it in older, far quieter versions. There's a preacher here who uses rooms at the pub. The ones who tolerate the homeless and those who actively seek them...about comfort zones.

If one parish has a boring pastor and another one has one as dynamic as Brian for example, do they regularly swap or share services...rather than compete.

There's any number of ways to increase church vitality and tis a fact of life nowadays, their coffers need to keep being filled. I think the current fella just up the road has a paying day job...a lifetime ago, the church could pay. Of course, others like the Pope are scraping by.

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» Migisi - First, Second, Third, Etc.

In response to First, Second, Third, Etc. posted by redback:

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Of course, others like the Pope are scraping by.
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Hee hee. 'Scraping by'. You're funny.

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» Migisi - answering Migisi

In response to answering Migisi posted by BrianTubbs:
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Thanks for the helpful answers, Pink and Bri. As you know, I come from a RC background. The dioceses 'plants' churches, establishes parish borders, and assigns priests. No factional splitting over doctrine allowed... that's a protest-ant concept. (wink)
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So, who's ~your~ friendly competition, Bri? What makes those churches different or better than yours?

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» pink101 - answering Migisi

In response to answering Migisi posted by Migisi:
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Which one has the richest and most generous farmer?
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» Brian Tubbs - Friendly Competition

In response to answering Migisi posted by Migisi:

Well, not to be 'politically correct,' but the truth is that we ultimately compete with ourselves. That's how we should look at it. Are we being the best that WE can be?

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» Migisi - answering Migisi

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Which one has the richest and most generous farmer?
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With the guiltiest conscience. Hee hee. Indulgences can't be purchased anymore, can they?
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Just for fun:
"In 1517, Pope Leo X made a Dominican monk named Johann Tetzel commissioner of indulgences for all Germany. The Vatican was in dire need of money to pay for its extravagant building and art projects. Tetzel soon toured around the country selling papal indulgences to the masses. He created a little rhyme which translates as "When a coin in coffer rings, a soul from purgatory springs." Tetzel is famous (or infamous) for having even created a chart documenting how much it would cost to receive an indulgence for various sins, and even boasted that the indulgences he sold could secure forgiveness for the heinous sin of violating the Virgin Mary. An indulgence is simply a pardon of the temporal punishment due for sins committed. In other words, a person who purchased an indulgence would supposedly escape the punishment merited by his sin."
http://preachingthepossible.blogspot.com...

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» Migisi - Friendly Competition

In response to Friendly Competition posted by BrianTubbs:

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...compete with ourselves... Are we being the best that WE can be?
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The 'best' - in what way?

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» Brian Tubbs - Friendly Competition

In response to Friendly Competition posted by Migisi:

You're familiar with the parable of the talents in Matthew 25? I want to make sure - and I'm encouraging our congregation to do likewise - that I/we not leave any talents buried in the ground.

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