Protestantism

» Brian Tubbs - Huckabee, New World Order Fascist

In response to Huckabee, New World Order Fascist posted by _Boanerges_:

Wendell proves my point that the knives are really coming out.

I love ya, Wendell, but I'm sorry. I just can't buy into the doomsday-sky is falling-conspiracy theories that you so often promulgate. Again, I agree with you on a lot of things and I appreciate where you're coming from on a lot of things - but not on the conspiracy stuff.

Mike Huckabee is not going to usher in a global world order and he most certainly is no "fascist." That's about as outrageous a thing as I've ever read here at Suite101 - and that's frankly saying something, because I've read quite a few rather outrageous things here.

» Brian Tubbs - Corporate Interests

In response to William Jennings Bryan posted by Migisi:

Of course, Mike Huckabee receives some donations from those tied in with corporate interests. But you're smoking something if you think Huck is corporate America's candidate.

Let's steer away from the extremes here, people. There is NOTHING wrong with taking money from rich people and corporations - provided it's all within legal parameters, of course. There's nothing unethical or immoral or inappropriate with accepting campaign contributions from people that have lots of money. Nothing.

The key question is...Can these people take money from the rich and still maintain a perspective that genuinely cares about and champions the interests of ALL the people?

» pink101 - William Jennings Bryan

In response to William Jennings Bryan posted by BrianTubbs:

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I expect you might like to read this response to our exchange by a relative of mine who was the minority leader in the state house for Michigan.
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"Interesting exchange
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"The 1896 campaign has always been of particular interest to me. Bryan's program was much more populist than Huckabee's: government ownership of railroads, the eight-hour day, graduated income tax, limits on immigration, no alien ownership of land, direct election of U.S. senators, term limits on the president and vice-president, etc. However, the key issue in the campaign was the call in the Democratic party platform(the Populist party 'fused' with the Dems by also endorsing Bryan) for cheap, inflationary money ('Free and unlimited coinage of silver at 16:1'.)
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"It's true that most of the Grover Cleveland wing of the party ('Gold Democrats') sat out the campaign - one New York leader said 'I am still a Democrat - still' - however, so did organized labor. (It was about this time that Eugene Debs gave up on the Democratic party and became active in the Socialist party.) Inflationary money, while it might help raise farm prices and lessen the impact of farm mortgages, offered little to industrial workers in the east.
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"Bryan did run the first 'whistle stop' campaign - speaking directly to more voters than any previous presidential candidate - but he carried only the solid, segregated South, the prairie states, and the silver mining states in the mountain West. Cleveland carried the heavily populated eastern states (where most industry was located) and the mid-west swing states of Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, Wisconsin, etc. This defeat ushered in 36 years of GOP domination (with the exception of the two terms when Woodrow Wilson held the White House.)
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"I think it's a stretch to equate Huckabee with Bryan in part because his appeal isn't truly 'populist' in the way Bryan's was, but also because it's difficult to tell where Huckabee stands on issues - will the Mike Huckabee of Iowa be the same Mike Huckabee in New Hampshire. Sounds like he's already tuning down the religious themes."
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If you take exception to this, I'm sure I can get you a response.
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-- posted by pink101

» pink101 - Interresting Read

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The 1896 election was a very important milestone in American history.
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Here's a quick and interesting read for you:
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http://projects.vassar.edu/1896/journals...
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Scroll to the top of that page.
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Here's another that is accessible from that site just in case you miss it there:
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http://projects.vassar.edu/1896/chronolo...
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-- posted by pink101

» _Boanerges_ - but I'm sorry...?...

In response to Huckabee, New World Order Fascist posted by BrianTubbs:
I just can't buy into the doomsday-sky is falling-conspiracy theories that you so often promulgate.
New World Order = One world Government. Don't believe me on that, that is expected. But, kinda hard for a pastor to dismiss what the written word of God states..
but not on the conspiracy stuff.
there is no conspiracy of the facts of the story.
Mike Huckabee is not going to usher in a global world order and he most certainly is no "fascist."
The article does not make the claim that Huck is going to "usher" anything in... Fascist is a simple term: "a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism."
In fact, Anti-christ will be a fascist dictator.
That's about as outrageous a thing as I've ever read here at Suite101 - and that's frankly saying something, because I've read quite a few rather outrageous things here.
well.. Brian.. I believe you will come around when you see it for yourself. Until then.. lets not start bashing your fellow brothers, ey... (Romans 14)...

-- posted by _Boanerges_

» pink101 - Heh heh heh

In response to but I'm sorry...?... posted by _Boanerges_:
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"...lets not start bashing your fellow brothers, ey... (Romans 14)..."
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Heh heh heh.
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Association is an interesting concept and, in it, we find the seeds of social action--or inaction.
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The germs of ideas start out in the individual mind and when we discover an other individual that is like minded, we associate with them.
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In fact, a case can be made that people are constantly in search of others who carry around similar ideas in their heads as those in ours. Even so, the search is, usually, not a conscious effort.
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Those ideas we have in our head can tend to be divisive rather than cohesive, especially when they are based on ideological belief systems. Any attempt to "force" another to associate with us almost always ends in failure ~~ eventually. The subject is well researched and deep study has gone into it. So, our actions are often very transparent to certain others.
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This post might go right on past you. Then, again, you might just "get it". But, I doubt you will.
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Heh heh heh ...

-- posted by pink101

» pink101 - Check This One Out

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Here, check this one out:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pin8fbdGV...
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-- posted by pink101

» _Boanerges_ - Check This One Out

In response to Check This One Out posted by pink101:

Paul has no corporate sponsors

-- posted by _Boanerges_

» _Boanerges_ - Heh heh heh

In response to Heh heh heh posted by pink101:
2 points stick out.. which proves your own point...
Any attempt to "force" another to associate with us almost always ends in failure ~~ eventually.
But, I doubt you will.

which is probably the main reason why you and I do not argue (debate/discuss) religion any longer... and... almost everything else come to think of it..

-- posted by _Boanerges_

» pink101 - You Will Be Impressed

In response to Heh heh heh posted by _Boanerges_:
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Why? Because you are consumed in your effort to find people who agree with you?
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Is there anything wrong with that?
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Who is to judge?
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I'm sure you will be impressed by the video series on the Corporation. Check it out, Wendell. It has 23 parts that are able to be seen there on YouTube, or you can buy the complete video on DVD.

-- posted by pink101