Protestantism

» pink101 - But, It Is Still Here

In response to But, It Is Still Here posted by Migisi:

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Yet, what Obama is saying is that the younger generation cannot just throw the older generation out with the bath water.
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And, it is in that idea where Obama is focused on bringing people together. I think his speech was a stroke of genius.
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And, I will watch to see if any other candidate is able to grasp it.
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-- posted by pink101

» pink101 - Passportgate

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Remember Watergate when Nixon people got caught spying on the Democratic Party Headquarters in the Watergate complex?
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There has just been a news release that some insider spying has been going on with Obama's passport files.
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Will this story have legs?
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-- posted by pink101

» Brian Tubbs - Obama the Fraud?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...

» pink101 - Tyranny Of The Masses

In response to Obama the Fraud? posted by BrianTubbs:
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Here's a comment by Frank Schaeffer who is the son of the late Francis Schaeffer:
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"When Senator Obama's preacher thundered about racism and injustice Obama suffered smear-by-association. But when my late father -- Religious Right leader Francis Schaeffer -- denounced America and even called for the violent overthrow of the US government, he was invited to lunch with presidents Ford, Reagan and Bush, Sr.
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"Every Sunday thousands of right wing white preachers (following in my father's footsteps) rail against America's sins from tens of thousands of pulpits. They tell us that America is complicit in the 'murder of the unborn,' has become ;Sodom' by coddling gays, and that our public schools are sinful places full of evolutionists and sex educators hell-bent on corrupting children. They say, as my dad often did, that we are, 'under the judgment of God.' They call America evil and warn of immanent destruction. By comparison Obama's minister's shouted 'controversial' comments were mild. All he said was that God should damn America for our racism and violence and that no one had ever used the N-word about Hillary Clinton."
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Do you want us to think, Brian, that you never blame the American people for anything from your pulpit and that you have never compared America to Sodom and Gomorrah?
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You can read more of Frank Schaeffer's comments at this link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-scha...
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Beware the tyranny of the masses.
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - Different Standards

In response to Tyranny Of The Masses posted by pink101:
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"Every Sunday thousands of right wing white preachers (following in my father's footsteps) rail against America's sins from tens of thousands of pulpits."
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Different Standards for Black and White Preachers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur...
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"But one thing is indisputable -- the enormous disparity in how the media has covered these white preachers as opposed to Rev. Wright. Have you ever even heard of Rod Parsley? As you can see from what I listed above, all of these white preachers have said and done the most outlandish and offensive things you can imagine -- and hardly a peep.
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"If the disparity in coverage isn't racist, then what is it?" (end)
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It's a short article, worth a read.

-- posted by Migisi

» Brian Tubbs - Tyranny Of The Masses

In response to Tyranny Of The Masses posted by pink101:

I can't speak for Schaeffer, but I've never called for God to damn America, nor have I endorsed the overthrow of its government. On the contrary, I've always expressed my love for America from my pulpit, while acknowledging (of course) that the nation is imperfect. Had Obama's pastor done that - spoke of his love for America, while denouncing its sins - we wouldn't be having this discussion.

» pink101 - Tyranny Of The Masses

In response to Tyranny Of The Masses posted by BrianTubbs:

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Had Obama's pastor done that - spoke of his love for America, while denouncing its sins - we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Far be it from me to beat a dead horse.
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You're correct, of course, that we wouldn't be having THIS discussion. But, we would be having another one quite a bit like it.
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You forget that I have spent quite a bit of time in O-ho-ho and I learned about the pro-dixie attitued that exists there.
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Now, you come here with your very narrowly aimed statement regarding the fact that you've "never called for God to damn America, nor [that you] endorsed the overthrow of its government]; but, you evade the question which was to ask if you've ever compared present day America with Sodom and Gomorrah. None of us can escape our cultural heritage and that was an important point Obama made in his discussion on the Larry King Show last night. You cannot escape your Virginny upbringing and your Ohioan racism any more than I can escape my upbringing and the culture I have been given.
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But, Brian ~~ and here is the point ~~ both you and I as well as every other American can reach beyond where we find ourselves into a better future where we don't focus in on ~~ like you are doing here ~~ our differences.
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What investment does anyone have in the divisive politics of Republicanism, as an American who claims they are reaching out to all people?
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Perhaps there is some worthy purpose in "rendering unto Caesar"?
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-- posted by pink101

» pink101 - Joe Six-Pack America

In response to Different Standards posted by Migisi:
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I personally have heard John Hagee preach that unless America gives full support to Zion in the capture of the Middle East, that God will destroy America..
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Go figure on different standards for white and black preachers. It's ALL racist. But, even more to the point, it raises the viewing audience of FOX News and Ruppert Murdoch's Nazi-type philosophy. That's how he is amassing billions out of the pockets of Joe Six-Pack America for which his network expresses such great disdain.
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - Tyranny Of The Masses

In response to Tyranny Of The Masses posted by BrianTubbs:
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IF Obama truly abhors racism and separatism, I'm surprised he didn't leave Rev. Wright's church a long time ago. Clearly, Wright has been preaching racist separatism and making anti-American remarks from the pulpit for several years (at least, since 9-11). Obama had to be aware of that (unless he never attended services?), and how it would impact his image in national politics.
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I don't think you or I would've joined, or remained a member of, a church led by a Nazi skin head or a Phelps type preacher. So, why does Obama remain a member of one led by a radical separatist -- IF Obama opposes that ideology?
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Makes me wonder.
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Also I wonder about Obama's connection and dealings with Tony Rezko - a SLUM LORD in Chicago's black neighborhoods (Obama's district) - who's now on trial on multiple criminal charges, including corruption involving the IL governor Blagojevich. Just how much does Obama care for the people?
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Obama's Failures in Illinois...Blood on Barack's hands
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqu3u9ISc...
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The Truth about Barack Obama & Rezko, the Chicago Slum Lord
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na6NlQI_2...
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Obama and Rezko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDHsHM0la...

-- posted by Migisi

» pink101 - John, Chapter 8

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In the Gospel of John, chapter 8, we read the following:
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1. But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2. At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4. and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" 6. They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.
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But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." 8. Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
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9. At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10. Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
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11. "No one, sir," she said.
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"Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
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It is interesting how many keep right on throwing stones. I don't see many people going away. Must be they all have clean hands?
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-- posted by pink101