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» pink101 - Enduring Faith?

In response to Enduring Faith? posted by redback:

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Your response to my post was interesting. It could be the basis for a discussion on the differing disciplines.
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» Migisi - MPD Salvation

In response to MPD Salvation posted by redback:
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Decades ago, my Mom bought a bottle of Holy Water through a Catholic magazine -- allegedly blessed by the Pope himself. In keeping with Catholic mysticism, it contained salt, oil, and water. Even back when warning labels weren't the standard, the bottle had one which read 'Do not drink'. Perhaps there was a devil genie still left in the bottle that escaped the Pope's exorcism? Some can't be driven out except by prayer and fasting, dontcha know.

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» redback - MPD Salvation

In response to MPD Salvation posted by Migisi:

The Jordan River or the Sea of Galilee...I can't remember but salt and oil were not the main ingedients I recall. But it wasn't passed through the Pope's hands.

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» redback - Enduring Faith?

In response to Enduring Faith? posted by pink101:

I was inclined to leave this topic light but you incite serious thought, doncha know.

To me, philosophy is like a familiar blanket. Like our minds, the blanket needs a good shake every now and then to get the dust...and dust mites...out but makes you hot in summer or in over-use and shouldn't be dragged into the swimming pool with you when you need to totally chill out.

"Mind, according to Mead, arises within the social process of communication and cannot be understood apart from that process." So...we can't read minds nor automatically speak a foreign language nor universal jargon.

"...Individual psychology, for Mead, is intelligible only in terms of social processes..." So, sociology and group interaction or reaction is more interesting to analyse than what makes an individual tick, to Mead. Is this the 'pragmatic' thinking which encourages conclusions about more important things eg "...what most people think..." with less regard for exclusions and individual variations?

Mead is described as the founder of pragmatism and that kinda pricks my ears up. I read somewhere:

"...Definitions need to be pragmatic. If you push any definition they break."

so I ponder the definition of 'pragmatism' within the USA worldview or community view.

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» pink101 - Enduring Faith?

In response to Enduring Faith? posted by redback:

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so I ponder the definition of 'pragmatism' within the USA worldview or community view.
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Try the shortest distance between to points is a straight line.
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» redback - Enduring Faith?

In response to Enduring Faith? posted by pink101:

"Try the shortest distance between to points is a straight line."

you might think there is a straight line between TWO points but try between THREE points. You guys are in a different world. But you knew that?

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» pink101 - Enduring Faith?

In response to Enduring Faith? posted by redback:

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Right, TWO.
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» Migisi - MPD Salvation

In response to MPD Salvation posted by redback:
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The Jordan River or the Sea of Galilee...I can't remember but salt and oil were not the main ingedients I recall.
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Right. The Jordan River is the source of the Sea of Galilee - both considered freshwater. Then the Jordan winds from the Galilee south to the Dead Sea. (It takes 200 river miles to travel the 65 direct miles from the Galilee to the Dead Sea. It's why it wasn't used for travel. Land routes were more direct.)
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The Dead Sea is the world's second saltiest lake, and the lowest elevation and the lowest body of water on Earth. Its 35% salinity is a ~mixture~ of chlorides, very different from most ocean/sea water which is around 97% sodium chloride. The Dead Sea is like our Great Salt Lake in Utah.
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More fascinating to me ... the Dead Sea discharges natural asphalt. It constantly spits up pebbles out of its sea floor fissures, and chunks as big as houses have been found after earthquakes.
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It's really a neat region, geology wise.
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But it wasn't passed through the Pope's hands.
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Gasp! You mean the Holy Water bottlers lied?? I'm shocked. Tee hee.

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» redback - MPD Salvation

In response to MPD Salvation posted by Migisi:

"Gasp! You mean the Holy Water bottlers lied?? I'm shocked. Tee hee."

Maybe I'm mixing things up. But ordinary, everyday travellers used whatever bottles and jars etc they had and dunked them in the river. My memory was faeces and bugs galore. But salt would kill that, right?

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» Migisi - MPD Salvation

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But salt would kill that, right?
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Maybe. But life finds a way. Brine shrimp live in the Great Salt Lake in Utah. We know algae can and does live in brine and sea water, and some species are toxic. Ask anyone who keeps a saltwater aquarium. If we used salt to kill micro organisms in water, the salt concentration needed would be toxic to us (can't drink sea water, right?).
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