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15.   Nov 14, 2007 11:17 AM

» Migisi - Bigotry? In Fact

In response to Bigotry? In Fact posted by pink101:


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Don't your mean "Jesus condemns bigotry"? The Bible is full of bigotry, intolerance, etc., hense its use to promote the same.
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16.   Nov 14, 2007 11:24 AM

» pink101 - Bigotry? In Fact

In response to Bigotry? In Fact posted by Migisi:


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Not only is it full of it, it also promotes it.
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But, it does condemn it--I'm sure of that.
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17.   Nov 14, 2007 12:40 PM

» Migisi - Bigotry? In Fact


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But, it does condemn it--I'm sure of that.
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Gives a mixed message, ay? Yep.

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18.   Nov 14, 2007 2:38 PM

» Feature Writer Brian Tubbs - Bible vs. Bigotry

In response to Bigotry? In Fact posted by Migisi:


The Bible contains bigotry in the same sense that it contains sin. Read the Bible and you will see examples of sin - all kinds of sin. But the message of the Bible - the teachings of the Bible - is completely 100 percent opposed to bigotry.

Now, Migisi adds the word "intolerance." Yes, the Bible is "intolerant" of sin. For example, the Bible condemns adultery. Does this mean that the Bible is bigoted toward adulterers? The Bible condemn stealing. Does this mean that God is bigoted toward thieves?

To condemn an action or behavior does not automatically equate to bigotry. To say that it does is foolishness.

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19.   Nov 14, 2007 2:54 PM

» pink101 - Blood Guilt

In response to Bible vs. Bigotry posted by BrianTubbs:
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The bible condemns persons for the sins of their ancestors.
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If I'm not mistaken, bigotry is speaking on behalf of God. Does the bible claim in any place that it is the Word of God?
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How is it, that the bible gets to be honored as the Revealed Word of God? And, doesn't that, in itself, lay the foundation for bigotry?
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20.   Nov 15, 2007 1:39 PM

» Migisi - Bible vs. Bigotry

In response to Bible vs. Bigotry posted by BrianTubbs:


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...the teachings of the Bible - is completely 100 percent opposed to bigotry.
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Sexism, racism, slavery, relgious bigotry... it's all in the book.
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We've discussed all these before. I'm really not interested in cutting/pasting the verses of proof, nor quoting prominent Christian preachers who use them to spew bigotry today.
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If you want to do that, carry on without me.

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21.   Nov 15, 2007 1:46 PM

» Feature Writer Brian Tubbs - Bigotry Depends on Paradigm

In response to Bible vs. Bigotry posted by Migisi:


It all comes down to two important questions...

1) Is God real?

2) Is the Bible inspired by God?

If the answer to the above questions - either one - is NO, then it's easy to make the charge that the Bible teaches "bigotry."

But....

If God is real and if He does stand as the authority behind the Bible, then the charge of bigotry collapses.

It's that simple.

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22.   Nov 15, 2007 2:42 PM

» Migisi - Bigotry Depends on Paradigm

In response to Bigotry Depends on Paradigm posted by BrianTubbs:
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1) Is God real?
Don't know. Can't prove one way or t'other.
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2) Is the Bible inspired by God?
No. Men were.
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is NO, then it's easy to make the charge that the Bible teaches "bigotry."
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I'm glad we agree.
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If God is real and if He does stand as the authority behind the Bible, then the charge of bigotry collapses.
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How so? Bigotry is bigotry, no matter what authority stands behind it.

-- posted by Migisi

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23.   Nov 15, 2007 5:04 PM

» Feature Writer Brian Tubbs - Bigotry Defined

In response to Bigotry Depends on Paradigm posted by Migisi:


According to dictionary.com, bigotry is the "stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own."

If God is real and the Bible is ultimately His handiwork (having inspired the biblical authors), then I suppose you could say God is a "bigot," because He doesn't tolerate other gods or sin. But, good luck, making that one stick.

If God is unreal, then the Bible and Christianity itself are manufactured by people - in which case, they conjured up a religious system designed to stifle others. And they are more open to the charge of bigotry.

Migisi, since you see Christianity as the creation of people (and not God), then I understand why you see the Bible as full of bigotry. I understand, but of course do not agree.

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24.   Nov 15, 2007 5:07 PM

» pink101 - Bigotry Defined

In response to Bigotry Defined posted by BrianTubbs:


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Where did I read that bigotry is the practice of speaking on behalf of God?
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