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» redback - How Do We

In response to How Do We posted by pink101:

Sorry...the hotlink's font is too small for the eyeballs so when my printer works again I'll print off & read. But til then, I may get the gist from your and Migisi's posts.

I think "love your enemies has to be one of the hardest non-hypocritcal calls here. If you seek thanks for it, that's your sole reward? But if you don't, rewards flow in the after-life?

But you go behind the messages...for credibilty? Certainly in my lifetime, the veracity of the belief systems of 7th Day Adventists and Jehovas etc were brought into question...and they gave a heads-up to other denominations about possible challenges to their claims. But don't these sorts of challenges pre-date the 19th century or is that when they peaked???

The sorts of questions I ask go beyond these two churches. I have a wall chart probably over 3 feet long setting out cryptic 'Religious Views of Life' ie the different expectations for prayer. Islam and Catholicism seem to share a similar view as to why (bleep) happens.

The Salvation Army is known as the church with its sleeves rolled up...or similar? I didn't think the doubt was with any church NOT getting its hands properly dirty...but its invasive manner or patronising approach. Should a church be known by its laziest or most hypocritical member...or the one who sells the most lamingtons or runs the most schools etc etc?

They're all drawing their authority from the Bible...or at least citing selective passages. But what options do we & established churches have noting we can't call their bluff on the afterlife? So, to answer:
"Red asks, So, Pink...do we all get different things from this Book, too? seems a resounding 'YES' from where I sit.

"There is a danger that Brian's approach here might take us off track..."

When we forever look in the rear vision mirror in case THEY are following, we may run off the road anyway. And I'm not sure who's on the bus (like me) and who's in their airconditioned car...this hot 35 degree day.

"...An idea surfaced that it wasn't the fault of the Bible; but, it was the fault of poor understandings of the Bible."

A good reflection, seems to me. Tis only the poor workman who always blames his tools, eh? Not all workman are poor. And what if we simply can't accept our (alleged?) lot in life?

I'm not reading Evangelicals are defending God but maybe I paraphrase them wrongly.

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» paper_turtle - For me, the question is:

In response to How Do We posted by redback:

How do I live the social gospel in my daily life? Just what does it mean in relation to my children, my neighbors, the problems in my community and state--and beyond that, just what am I called to do about the problems in the nation and the world?

Seems to me we could go on forever about how others are getting in wrong and never think about what we could be doing.

peace and love,
Paper Turtle

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» Brian Tubbs - For me, the question is:

In response to For me, the question is: posted by paper_turtle:

Hey, PT, welcome back. I think a good way to approach that question is the classic WWJD - What would Jesus do? And, yes, Jesus told us to remove the plank in our own eye, before we go after the speck in our neighbor's eye. So, yeah, good point.

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» pink101 - Off track?

In response to Off track? posted by BrianTubbs:
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"...YOU are drawing a distinctive line, saying that evangelicals or fundamentalists are on one side and those committed to feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, helping the poor, etc. are on the other side."
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I am not and haven't said that at all. But, I can address that issue.
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The concept is not merely what you have implied; but, it is that the elevation of society to its highest level IS what the Social Gospel is all about. That it is the calling to help raise all humanity to its greatest potential is something Evangelicals scoff at.
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Hey, Sister Turtle!~ How did your showings go?
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» redback - For me, the question is:

In response to For me, the question is: posted by paper_turtle:

Sometimes we can learn by watching another stub their toe in a place we thought was safe? I'm still liking the reference to 'pointing the finger of blame where 3 fingers point back at me'. I'm sure a higher authority should get credit for this but I still cite Goldie Hawn.

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» paper_turtle - For me, the question is: (Brian)

In response to For me, the question is: posted by BrianTubbs:

Hi Brian! Thanks for the welcome back.

I think a good way to approach that question is the classic WWJD - What would Jesus do? And, yes, Jesus told us to remove the plank in our own eye, before we go after the speck in our neighbor's eye. So, yeah, good point.

Thanks. Yes what *would* Jesus do?

The spirit of the Lord is upon me because he has anointed me;
he has sent me to announce good news to the poor,
to proclaim release for prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind;
to let the broken victim go free,
to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.
(Luke 4:18-19; see also Is 42:6-7, Is 61:1-2)

peace and love,
Paper Turtle

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» paper_turtle - Off track?

In response to Off track? posted by pink101:

Hey, Sister Turtle!~ How did your showings go?
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One showing, so far. I got great responses, and even a bit of good press, but I only sold one painting. But that's OK--its exposure, and eventually I'll sell more. I'm working on getting my work out in some other venues, but no definite dates as yet.

peace and love,
Paper Turtle

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» paper_turtle - For me, the question is: (redback)

In response to For me, the question is: posted by redback:

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Sometimes we can learn by watching another stub their toe in a place we thought was safe?
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True enough. This approach becomes problemmatic though, when we start patting ourselves on the back for being smarter than "they" were.
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I'm still liking the reference to 'pointing the finger of blame where 3 fingers point back at me'. I'm sure a higher authority should get credit for this but I still cite Goldie Hawn.

LOL. Yuppers, and a point often missed (pun intended).

peace and love,
Paper Turtle

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» pink101 - Off track?

In response to Off track? posted by paper_turtle:

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Wonderful!.
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I talked with an artist and her benefactor on Thursday. They are involved in some work on the history of Ann Arbor, Michigan. We owe a great deal to the artists in our world. Thanks for your work.
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» redback - For me, the question is:

In response to For me, the question is: posted by BrianTubbs:

Brian...a little aside I thought I'd share with you in case you didn't hear about it. A roof collapsed on a Baptist Church here...between services. The pastor commented the timing was an Act of God...as no injuries were inflicted.

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