Protestantism

» pink101 - Fundamentalism

In response to Fundamentalism posted by BrianTubbs:
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What DO you know about the inception, development, and evolution of Fundamentalism in North America?
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Where did you get your formal Christian education prior to your ordination?
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - Follow up on Hate

In response to Follow up on Hate posted by BrianTubbs:
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To say that anyone and/or any act falls short of the glory of God is exclusionary and breeds discrimination.
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What does "falls short of the glory of God" mean?
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If you follow the above two lines of thought to their logical end, then what you will end up with is a view that says: "To disagree with - or to publicly state your disagreement with - a person's views and/or lifestyle is to hate them."
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Hate resulting in violence and murder have been perpetrated by extremists who've heard and acted upon the condemnation of people from the pulpit - using the Bible to justify their actions. That's how many religious terrorist groups like Christian Identity and the Army of God came to exist. The leader of the religious terrorist organization 'Order of the White Rose' (branch of Army of God), is REVEREND Michael Bray - ordained minister who attended seminary in Denver, pastor of Reformed Lutheran Church in Bowie MD, and author of the book 'A TIME TO KILL' (kill abortion doctors). AOG members include other pastors and Catholic priests, along with convicted murderers and clinic fire bombers James Kopp, Michael Griffin, Shelly Shannon, Eric Rudolph, and other 'soldiers of God'. This is just one example of how church condemnation can generate evil actions. I could present Fundy hate speech which urged extremists to commit hate crimes against gays, blacks, Jews, etc. But do you need me to, to get my point?

-- posted by Migisi

» Brian Tubbs - Falling Short of God's Glory

In response to Follow up on Hate posted by Migisi:

What does "fall short of the glory of God" mean?

I was referring to Paul's phrase in Romans 3:23 - "For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God."

» Brian Tubbs - Follow up on Hate

In response to Follow up on Hate posted by Migisi:

Migisi, there are people who have used religion to justify violence, just as there are people who have used various philosophies and even natural selection (eugenics anyone?) to justify violence.

» Brian Tubbs - Fundamentalism

In response to Fundamentalism posted by pink101:

Here we go. Because I don't agree with your interpretation of Christian history (particularly the origins of fundamentalism), you are now going to interrogate me on my education (or lack thereof) and press me for my credentials.

As I've revealed before, I am CURRENTLY a seminary student and was ordained while in a student status. I am now one class away from a M.A. in Theological Studies from Liberty Theological Seminary (as in Liberty University).

My studies on the Bible, church history, theology, etc. have been ongoing for several years, however. And have included resources outside of my seminary education.

» pink101 - Fundamentalism

In response to Fundamentalism posted by BrianTubbs:

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Actually, it's there YOU go again--you're paranoid.
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I was wondering where you get your information about the, as you recall, "inception, development, and evolution" of Fundamentalism. So many Evangelicals seem to think that Fundamentalism grew out of a natural understanding of Scripture and that it is as old as Christianity itself and merely a reaffirmation of the basic principles upon which the faith was built. That's wrong.
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - Falling Short of God's Glory

In response to Falling Short of God's Glory posted by BrianTubbs:

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I was referring to Paul's phrase in Romans 3:23 - "For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God."

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Yes, I know that verse. What's it mean?

-- posted by Migisi

» pink101 - Falling Short of God's Glory

In response to Falling Short of God's Glory posted by Migisi:

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Romans 3:23 - "For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God."
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Yes, I know that verse. What's it mean?
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Do you expect an answer?
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I have gone round and round on the third chapter of Romans with some staunch Religionists and they just cannot admit to its meaning. They ALWAYS figure a way out.
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - Follow up on Hate

In response to Follow up on Hate posted by BrianTubbs:

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Migisi, there are people who have used religion to justify violence, just as there are people who have used various philosophies and even natural selection (eugenics anyone?) to justify violence.
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You affirm that people have used religion to justify violence. Religion is what we're talking about here. While I specifically mention Christianity in this discussion re violence, I do acknowledge that other belief systems also justify their oppression and violence in the same way. And I reckon that if religion didn't exist, men would find another excuse to anihilate each other.

-- posted by Migisi

» Migisi - Falling Short of God's Glory

In response to Falling Short of God's Glory posted by pink101:

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Do you expect an answer?
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An answer from a pastor would be nice. I've never gotten one yet either.

-- posted by Migisi