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» EvilChihuahua - Has So Much About It

In response to Has So Much About It posted by pink101:

So, what would you say a Humanist Christian is?

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» pink101 - Has So Much About It

In response to Has So Much About It posted by EvilChihuahua:

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I'm not sure. What do you think one would be?
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» Migisi - Humanist Christianity

In response to Humanist Christianity posted by BrianTubbs:
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Now, THAT is a contradiction in terms.
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Today, some think it's contradictory, but it wasn't always.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism
"Renaissance humanism, and its emphasis on returning to the sources, contributed to the Protestant reformation by helping to gain what Protestants believe was a more accurate translation of Biblical texts."
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance...
Relationship to Christianity
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"As Neo-Platonism replaced the Aristotelianism of Saint Thomas Aquinas, attempts were made to join the great works of Antiquity with Christian values in a syncretic Christian humanism, such as those by Marsilio Ficino and Pico della Mirandola. Ethics was taught independently of theology, and the authority of the Church was tacitly transferred to the reasoning logic of the educated individual. Thus humanists constantly skirted the dangers of being branded as heretics.
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"One example of such pagan philosophy and Christian doctrine melding is found in "The Epicurean", by Erasmus, the "prince of humanists:
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"If people who live agreeably are Epicureans, none are more truly Epicurean than the righteous and godly. And if it's names that bother us, no one better deserves the name of Epicurean than the revered founder and head of the Christian philosophy [Christ], for in Greek epikouros means "helper." He alone, when the law of Nature was all but blotted out by sins, when the law of Moses incited to lists rather than cured them, when Satan ruled in the world unchallenged, brought timely aid to perishing humanity. Completely mistaken, therefore, are those who talk in their foolish fashion about Christ's having been sad and gloomy in character and calling upon us to follow a dismal mode of life. On the contrary, he alone shows the most enjoyable life of all and the one most full of true pleasure. (Erasmus 549)
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"This quote exemplifies the way in which the humanists saw pagan classical works such as the philosophy of Epicurus as being fundamentally in harmony with Christianity, rather than as a nemesis to be pitted against Christianity. Although Renaissance humanists were more accepting of pagan philosophy than their Scholastic contemporaries, they did not necessarily object to the idea that Christian understanding should be dominant over other modes of thought. Some humanists were even churchmen, most notably Pope Aeneas Silvius Piccolomini Pius II." (end quote)

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» EvilChihuahua - Has So Much About It

In response to Has So Much About It posted by pink101:

Well, from my point of view Humanism and Christianity are two different things. I'm not saying it's immpossible to be a Humanist Christian, but I am interested in the concept.:)

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» pink101 - Has So Much About It

In response to Has So Much About It posted by EvilChihuahua:
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I'm not saying it's immpossible to be a Humanist Christian, but I am interested in the concept.
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Well, then, give it a shot.
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How do you think the two different concepts come together. It has to be said that Humanism is well intended and that it has lofty ideals.
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Now, what part of Christianity fits in with that?
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I think, in the least, you'd have to give up on the end times doctrine; because, that eliminates all hope for humanity as such. The only ones who want and pray for the end times are the psychotic Christian Zionists like John Hagee. Christianity can most certainly do without him or his likes. Maybe about 30 % of the Fundamentalists want and pray for the end times. The remaining 70% of the Fundamentalists are just Fellow Travelers who really don't have a clue as to what Christianity is all about anyway--they're controlled by fear of going to Hell. They would be a lot better off in an ideology that speaks to their reality. I'm sure most of us who are outside the group agree with that.
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» EvilChihuahua - Has So Much About It

In response to Has So Much About It posted by pink101:

Well, you can't spell Fundementalist without mental (an Arab comedian said that one).

I believe in the end times, but I don't know why one would pray for them. The only people I can think of who would pray for the end times would be those ultra-conservative, pro-Bush/Howard types that throw a hissy fit over the smallest things.

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» Migisi - Has So Much About It

In response to Has So Much About It posted by EvilChihuahua:

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but I don't know why one would pray for them
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Well, Jesus comes in the end, and everything will be great. So, if we hurry the end times up by prayer and politics, we might get to meet him. (sarcasm)

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» EvilChihuahua - Has So Much About It

In response to Has So Much About It posted by Migisi:

Lol :D

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» pink101 - Let Us Labor For The Master

WHEN THE ROLL IS CALLED UP YONDER, I'LL BE THERE
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When the trumpet of the Lord shall sound, and time shall be no more,
And the morning breaks, eternal, bright and fair;
When the saved of earth shall gather over on the other shore,
And the roll is called up yonder, I'll be there.
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When the roll, is called up yon-der,
When the roll, is called up yon-der,
When the roll, is called up yon-der,
When the roll is called up yonder I'll be there.
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On that bright and cloudless morning when the dead in Christ shall rise,
And the glory of His resurrection share;
When His chosen ones shall gather to their home beyond the skies,
And the roll is called up yonder, I'll be there.
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Chorus
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Let us labor for the Master from the dawn till setting sun,
Let us talk of all His wondrous love and care;
Then when all of life is over, and our work on earth is done,
And the roll is called up yonder, I'll be there.
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Chorus
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Words & Music by James M. Black, 1893
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Black, a Methodist Sunday school teacher in Williamsport, Pennsylvania, was calling roll one day for a youth meeting. Young Bessie, daughter of a drunkard, did not show up, and he was disappointed at her failure to appear. Black made a comment to the effect, "Well, I trust when the roll is called up yonder, she'll be there."
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He tried to respond with an appropriate song, but could not find one in his song book. Later he wrote:
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Quote:
"This lack of a fitting song caused me both sorrow and disappointment. An inner voice seemed to say, 'Why don't you write one?' I put away the thought. As I opened the gate on my way home, the same thought came again so strongly that tears filled my eyes. I entered the house and sat down at the piano. The words came to me effortlessly. The tune came the same way; I dared not change a single note or word."
End of Quote
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Lifted from this site:
http://members.tripod.com/synergy_2/lyri...
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Here the music here:
http://my.homewithgod.com/heavenlymidis2...
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» pink101 - More Opinion

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Christianity is a body of collective beliefs and practices endowed with a certain authority.
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The religion of the past cannot be the religion of the future. So, it is important that we get a good understanding of the religion we have in the present as that will be the one we take with us into the future.
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There is, however, a thinking among many Christian Fundamentalists that their religion is destined to revert to its pre-Christian roots of some form of strict Judaism. So, the claim is that the religion of the past WILL be the religion of the future. The very religion that Jesus came against.
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Go figure.
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