Protestantism

» Migisi - Two quick things

In response to Two quick things posted by BrianTubbs:

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Geez, Bri. I was just having some fun. You did say you were studying for your Masters in Theology, dintcha? Lighten up.
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Jesus tells the disciples to baptize "in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost."
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Sorry, but concensus is that this was an interpolation - a later addition to scripture. Note that the apostles instruct to baptize in the name of Jesus (or the Lord). Did they merely forget to mention the Father and Holy Ghost? In whose name did John the Baptist baptize Jesus?

-- posted by Migisi

» pink101 - Come On, Come On

In response to Two quick things posted by BrianTubbs:

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Come on, come on, Brian.
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Forget the martyrdom. No one is taking shots at you. We're here for discussion's sake.
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Don't be paranoid.
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Think of it as an opportunity to sharpen your blade.
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» Migisi - Come On, Come On

In response to Come On, Come On posted by pink101:

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He's such a sensitive kid. Guess I'll have to use more than one smiley face so he'll notice when I'm funnin with him.
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I think he's got his nose to the grind stone instead of his sword. Studying for a Master's is some tough work.

-- posted by Migisi

» Migisi - Trinity Overview

In response to Trinity Overview posted by BrianTubbs:

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Good article, Bri. Thanks for posting it.

-- posted by Migisi

» redback - Two quick things

In response to Two quick things posted by BrianTubbs:

"..."in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost."

I'll confess right up front that the Trinity confuses me and I shoulda copied down an understood explanation I read here year+ back. Something about the manifestations of the one God. But I liken it to a kinda oath of allegiance where every aspect is accounted for. Including the very essence of it all lest there be any misunderstanding. Though "In the name of...the son" rather than "in the name of Jesus..." is lost a bit on me.

But it's for a baptismal ceremony or Catholic ceremonies, only? I have frequently heard the exhortation or rebuke: "In the name of Jesus..." without mentioning the Father and the Lord's prayer naturally omits the Son?

So, what makes an effective baptism seems the point. Full immersion, part dunk, all the above exhortation.

-- posted by redback

» redback - Two quick things

In response to Two quick things posted by redback:

Given the earlier exchanges, I thought I'd say the above was a serious post. I'd forgotten you were Baptist, so one aspect in my post is clearer. My friendly question now is what is your Masters thesis on? If these issues are as flogged to death as you indicate, there must have been one * of a challenge for you to select it.

And are any here cited at all?

-- posted by redback

» pink101 - You Are Correct

In response to Come On, Come On posted by Migisi:
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Studying for a Master's is some tough work.
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Yes, I'm sure you are correct.
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-- posted by pink101

» pink101 - You Are Correct

In response to You Are Correct posted by pink101:

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And, we all wish him our best.
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No doubt.
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - The spirit of both

In response to Two quick things posted by redback:
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Though "In the name of...the son" rather than "in the name of Jesus..." is lost a bit on me.
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As you say, the customary Christian signature is "In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (Ghost)." Shouldn't it be "In the name of I AM, Jesus, and ... um, what's his name??"? It has no name. The Spirit ~is~ I AM. It's the 'spirit' or 'essence' (truth, wisdom, virtue, grace, immanent knowledge, etc.) ~of~ I AM - not a separate or distinct person. Some scriptures refer to the Holy Spirit as the Spirit of Jesus (or Son) proceeding ~from~ the Son. So, the Holy Spirit is the 'essence' of BOTH of them (God and Son). Given this, the signature should reflect only two godheads... I AM and Jesus. The Spirit was included as part of the trinity, IMO, because Jesus spoke about it as if it was a separate divine being. At least, his followers interpretted his remarks in that way.
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Just my opinions, of course.

-- posted by Migisi

» pink101 - The spirit of both

In response to The spirit of both posted by Migisi:
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Just my opinion, of course.
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Opinion?
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Mine is that we could identify with Jesus.
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Postmodern Christianity allows that the Children of God are his sons and daughters.
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So, could it be said, "In the name of the Parent, the Child, and the Spirit"?
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Can we see our own self as the child if we identify with Jesus?
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In the biblical account, Jesus went to the cross to pay for a crime he didn't commit.
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To say that you are born into sin is to accuse you of guilt for that which you did not commit.
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So, how does that relate to your sinful nature?
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And, correct! The spirit is the result of the relationship of the two--the parent and the child. The relationship you share with each of your children has its own special spirit. The spirit of both.
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Just my opinion, of course.
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-- posted by pink101