Protestantism

» Migisi - How about some honesty?

In response to How about some honesty? posted by Brother_Jones:

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You don't strike me as a lazy person. But your answer is sorta lame.
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Disappointed that I didn't give you anything to criticize, ay?

You ingnored my first question about interaction, which based on the placement in the post, would seem to carry more importance.
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If and how I interact with the ONE is not your business.
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Is there some reason, migisi, that you could give that you aren't considering the religions that encompass multiple gods?
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I ~have~ considered them, but they don't fit me.

-- posted by Migisi

» Brother_Jones - How about some honesty?

In response to How about some honesty? posted by Migisi:

I ~have~ considered them, but they don't fit me.

Well, it is a difficult thing to leave the religion of your upbringing. My wife and I felt like we did that very thing when we left our heritage in the Churches of Christ. I know my relatives thought I had lost my mind and was on the road to Hell. Some still think it. I was able to hang onto Jesus, but we went through some very difficult times at family reunions. I'm sure you probably have had some rough times with your decision, and some tense moments with family. Some families handle it better than others. My relatives were extremely upset because I was involved in the ministry at the time when I saw that Christ was doing more outside my denomination than inside it.

the oldtimer.

-- posted by Brother_Jones

» Migisi - How about some honesty?

In response to How about some honesty? posted by Brother_Jones:

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God is three persons. Yet one God.
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Tricky math, isn't it.

-- posted by Migisi

» Migisi - How about some honesty?

In response to How about some honesty? posted by Brother_Jones:

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I'm sure you probably have had some rough times with your decision, and some tense moments with family.
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Personally, I admit I've had some tough times discarding old beliefs. It's like kicking a bad habit. But I've had no tense moments with any family members. We've always had a 'to each his own' philosophy on life.

-- posted by Migisi

» redback - Dear Theologian

In response to Dear Theologian posted by Migisi:

"The whole letter is pretty interesting, IMO."

Some issues are deeper than others but I got through it. Worth the effort.

-- posted by redback

» Migisi - Dear Theologian

In response to Dear Theologian posted by redback:
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Thanks for taking the time, Red.

-- posted by Migisi

» redback - Dear Theologian

In response to Dear Theologian posted by Migisi:

In some areas, science takes risks, faith as is sometimes expressed, doesn't appear to. But what the letter expresses in totality, covers several topics that would never progress beyond skin deep fatal interruptions here.

I was reminded of faith (and or vs) science today. I am a diabetic so was fascinated to read that frogs and scorpions are doing their bit for cancer & heart disease, pigs for diabetes...and now lizards for diabetes too.

What do faith and science tell us about the introduction or creation of illness on Earth and the cures-already-in-waiting. Then to await some ancient 'witch' or modern day scientist to be blessed with the skills and desire to find them.

A pox on mankind and a true blessing for he that finds the cure?

PS: Brother-Jones...I did state I'd come back here when you did..but your post re my pointlessly repeating myself here, did kinda go over my head. sorry.

-- posted by redback

» Brother_Jones - Dear Theologian

In response to Dear Theologian posted by redback:

PS: Brother-Jones...I did state I'd come back here when you did..but your post re my pointlessly repeating myself here, did kinda go over my head. sorry.

It is kinda hard to jump on these topics when the posts get distanced. Very sorry to hear of the loss of your friend. I hope that your friend was a believer.

Perhaps with the topic turning to some of the Sagan statements, we can get back on track. The astronomer has quite a following among those who distanced themselves from any religious notions because he spoke quite a bit about the idea that Science had little or no evidence for God/gods. Then in his programming, Sagan would make declarations about God that were obviously not Science based observations, but were based on his particular bias. Anyway, his body of work provides a good starting point for whether biased educated science or folk religious science does very well in the classroom.

the oldtimer.

-- posted by Brother_Jones

» Migisi - Dear Theologian

In response to Dear Theologian posted by Brother_Jones:
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Sagan would make declarations about God that were obviously not Science based observations, but were based on his particular bias.
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And you don't do the same thing?

-- posted by Migisi

» Migisi - Faith healing and science

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"Is it fair to be suspicious of an entire profession because of a few bad apples? There are at least two important differences, it seems to me. First, no one doubts that science actually works, whatever mistaken and fraudulent claim may from time to time be offered. But whether there are any miraculous cures from faith-healing, beyond the body's own ability to cure itself, is very much at issue. Secondly, the expose' of fraud and error in science is made almost exclusively by science. But the exposure of fraud and error in faith-healing is almost never done by other faith-healers." [Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle in the Dark]

-- posted by Migisi