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» pink101 - Exorcisms

In response to Exorcisms posted by BrianTubbs:

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Would you be?
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» Migisi - Exorcisms

In response to Exorcisms posted by pink101:

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How about 'laying on of hands'? Done that, Brian?

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» pink101 - Exorcisms

In response to Exorcisms posted by Migisi:

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The basic act or ordination is one of laying on of hands.
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» Migisi - Exorcisms

In response to Exorcisms posted by pink101:
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Catholics use the term 'exorcism'. Christians refer to it as 'laying on of the hands'. Just being sure my question to Brian is clear. He likes terms defined.

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» Migisi - Exorcisms

In response to Exorcisms posted by pink101:
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Have you ever seen a 'faith healing' (exorcism, laying on of hands) done, Pink? Not done by the tele-performers like Benny Hinn and the like, but a real one done in a church?
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» pink101 - Exorcisms

In response to Exorcisms posted by Migisi:

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No, I never have.
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The church I grew up in was pretty main line and they did not abide any such foolishness. That was a lot like speaking in tongues. I remember an instance where some one blurted out some gibberish during the preacher's sermon and another person interpreted it in English. There was an attempt to invade our sovereignty from some outsider forces. They were quickly sent packing.
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No spiritism, no spiritualism, no healing, no tongues, nothing but the Fundamentals. Nada. Zilch.

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» Brian Tubbs - Supernatural

I've never been involved in any ceremony, event, activity that would constitute an overt display of the supernatural. No tongues. No laying on of hands - in a healing sense. No casting out of demons. None of that.

As a general rule, I don't believe Christians today should seek out those kinds of experiences. However, I believe - as Paul said - that are in the midst of a spiritual war. I therefore understand that spiritual forces are at work, but I make no attempt to contact them or interact with them. The only exception is God, and I interact with Him through prayer and Bible study.

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» Migisi - Supernatural

In response to Supernatural posted by BrianTubbs:

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As a general rule, I don't believe Christians today should seek out those kinds of experiences.
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What circumstances or exceptions, if any, are there to that general rule?
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» Brian Tubbs - Exceptions

In response to Supernatural posted by Migisi:

Pink frequently alludes to the doctrine of dispensationalism, and that really does play into this issue. I believe the "signs and wonders" that accompanied the apostles and the early church have, for all practical purposes, ceased. God can and does still work miracles, but not through us in the same way that He did through Peter, Paul, etc. Explaining that belief will require more time than I have right now, so I'll simply assert it for the time being.

That being the case, I don't believe Christians today should seek after those "signs and wonders." I do believe (though I have never experienced or observed) in demonic possession - certainly in demonic activity. So, the only "exception" to my above statement would be that God does call some Christians to be uniquely suited to deal with that. I am not one of them, however, nor do I seek to be. So, we're out of my frame of reference and experience at this point.

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» pink101 - Exceptions

In response to Exceptions posted by BrianTubbs:

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I can allude to some other things as well, eg., Free Will.
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The idea that the Bible is a Closed Book came about from the practice of the Illuminaries when they included curses, in their translations of ancient script, to anyone who who make any changes or additions to what they put on parchment.
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If human beings possess Free Will, they will be able to change God's mind about any plans for the future by way of their choices. To force the idea of a Closed Book on us is to set aside the ability to make any choices. So, Free Will goes down the tubes and everything becomes deterministic or predestined in the Calvinist sense.
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