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» _Boanerges_ - righteous - what does it mean?

Main Entry: righ·teous
Function: adjective
Etymology: alteration of earlier rightuous, alteration of Middle English rightwise, rightwos, from Old English rihtwimacrs, from riht, noun, right + wimacrs wise
1 : acting in accord with divine or moral law : free from guilt or sin
2 a : morally right or justifiable (a righteous decision) b : arising from an outraged sense of justice or morality (righteous indignation)
3 slang : GENUINE, EXCELLENT
synonym see MORAL
- righ·teous·ly adverb
- righ·teous·ness noun
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"When we (wendell adds: besides Phil) translate the Greek words based on the stem dikai- into English we make use of two sets of words based on the stems, just and right. So we have just, justice, justify and right, righteous, righteousness, rightwise (old English). The use of two sets of English words for the one set of Greek words sometimes causes difficulties for students of the Bible. This is especially so when the verb "to justify, " describing God's word and action, is used with the noun "righteousness, " pointing to the result of that action.

-- posted by _Boanerges_

» pink101 - Humoring Wendell

In response to righteous - what does it mean? posted by _Boanerges_:
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Just to humor you, Wendell.
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You included this line in your last post:
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acting in accord with divine or moral law : free from guilt or sin
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Do you understand what it is saying? Or are ye daft?
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If I act according the the rights with which I am filled, I am acting in accord with law what ever the issue may be--religious or civil. That means that I am free from any guilt, sin, or crime of which any person might accuse me; because I have certain rights--I am a righteous person. It can also be said that my behavior is righteous in that I act like I know that I have these rights.
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But, you are using the word righteous as though behaving properly is what earns you a position in God's mind and that is a wrong interpretation of the word. God dispenses a certain righteousness to all humanity. It is not earned by anything we might do.
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Did you get it this time?
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You yo-yo.
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lol
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Next
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-- posted by pink101

» _Boanerges_ - Humoring Phil

In response to Humoring Wendell posted by pink101:

Just to humor you, Phil.

re: acting in accord with divine or moral law : free from guilt or sin

Do you understand what it is saying? Or are ye daft?

No - I do understand. This is the Christianity section of Suite101. So, my responses are in accordance with what Fundamental Christianity teaches, as given through the Word of God, as written.

If I act according the the rights with which I am filled, I am acting in accord with law what ever the issue may be--religious or civil.

We are not worried with civil, because it does not pertain to 'righteousness'.. that much is evident.

So, lets continue with righteousness as given in Fundamental Christianity.

...I act according the the rights with which I am filled..

Question: what rights are you given. Please provide scripture!...

That means that I am free from any guilt, sin, or crime of which any person might accuse me; because I have certain rights--I am a righteous person.

Speculation - until you are able to provide and answer from the previous question. So, we shall place your 'reasoning' on hold for the moment.

It can also be said that my behavior is righteous in that I act like I know that I have these rights.

"can also".. is a subjective statement, based upon your unsubstantiated claim above, which was made with providing any evidence for such.. Therefore, this statement will have to be put on hold as well, until you are able to first answer the question given above. Not a difficult thing, to be sure.. (but, being the liberal that you claim to be, you may just choose to ignore the obvious and make the claim as if it were the absolute truth.. )

But, you are using the word righteous as though behaving properly is what earns you a position in God's mind and that is a wrong interpretation of the word.

Actually, all I have done is quote the definition, as given by ALL dictionary's. So, this speculation will have to be put on hold as well, because.. well, you have not answered the above question as of yet, so... your premise may in fact be wrong (which is my claim - that it is wrong) and if that is true, then your continued statements of "you are using" has no relevence to the definition, based upon the false premise to begin with. But, you have been given the opportunity many times here already to establish as a fact that your premise as, at least, some truth it. Now then - you have not provided any evidence, and what I have provided (the dictionary version) does not come close to your explanation (without any evidence to support it)...

God dispenses a certain righteousness to all humanity. It is not earned by anything we might do.

Question: Where in Scripture is this statement found? Please verify this as so it can be determined to be a truthful statement. Thanks!

Did you get it this time?

get "it"..? what is it?.....

okie.. your turn!..

-- posted by _Boanerges_

» pink101 - Humoring Phil

In response to Humoring Phil posted by _Boanerges_:

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More nonsense.
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But everyone still likes yuh, Wendell.
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And, I don't think anyone is mad at yuh.
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But, you know....
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NEXT
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-- posted by pink101

» _Boanerges_ - Humoring Phil

In response to Humoring Phil posted by pink101:

More nonsense.

so.. you are admitting that your definition of 'righteousness' cannot be found, either in the secular sphere, or the Christian sphere?...

okie! thats easy enough!.....

But everyone still likes yuh, Wendell. And, I don't think anyone is mad at yuh.

everyone? wow! mad, at me? for what, pointing out absolute truth! haha.. actually, the Liberals get mad as hell.. well, as you have shown us.. and we do know that you are somewhat fuming......

okie.. so you cannot answer what the simple definition of righteousness is...

and.. it seems you (all by your lil self) created a new one!...

okie! got "it"....

-- posted by _Boanerges_

» pink101 - Frustrating

In response to Humoring Phil posted by pink101:

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Frustrating to try to interact with another person when you are always wrong no matter what you do isn't it, Big Guy.
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And, try not to come back with more nonsense, o.k.?
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NEXT!!

-- posted by pink101

» _Boanerges_ - another thread comes to naught!

In response to Frustrating posted by pink101:

And, try not to come back with more nonsense, o.k.?

okie!.. lets wrap up another useless thread...

You state: ..is what earns you a position in God's mind and that is a wrong interpretation of the word. God dispenses a certain righteousness to all humanity. It is not earned by anything we might do.

So then, you are stating an absolute fact, based upon what God says - according to your religion? So then, you are speaking for God - to all of us - especially concerning what 'righteousness' is. And that, you expect everyone to 'get in line' with you concerning what you claim, God claims, otherwise, its foolishness!..

Do I have that correct? Because you have said:

"So, maybe that gives the reader an idea about why I am so opposed to the idea that Absolute Truth be allowed to have its foot in the door of our ideologies. BTW This thread appears to have been created for the purpose of a debate based on the idea of If A, then B, and if B, then C, and if C, then D. It's the trick of nonsensical debate that we have seen worked here before. Foolish nonsense.. None are fooled."

So.. hmmm.... what are you saying? that you have absolutely spoken for God: "is what earns you a position in God's mind and that is a wrong interpretation of the word. God dispenses a certain righteousness to all humanity. It is not earned by anything we might do"

or..... that...

you are opposed to absolute truth as far as God is concerned? You said: "So, maybe that gives the reader an idea about why I am so opposed to the idea that Absolute Truth be allowed to have its foot in the door of our ideologies".

uhmmm.....?.... do you need to clarify, or, have we finally come to the end of this "discussion".....

How righteous!!! ....lol...

-- posted by _Boanerges_

» pink101 - another thread comes to naught!

In response to another thread comes to naught! posted by _Boanerges_:
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Absolutist Bull Roar.
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Why would anyone ever read such nonsense. I know I don't.
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But I ain't mad at ya, Wendell.
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You have been dismissed.
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NEXT!!!
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-- posted by pink101

» _Boanerges_ - another thread comes to naught!

In response to another thread comes to naught! posted by pink101:

Why would anyone ever read such nonsense. I know I don't.

me neither.. especially when I have only quoted your words! Oh, and the dictionary...

ummm.. now, that is righteous

-- posted by _Boanerges_

» pink101 - another thread comes to naught!

In response to another thread comes to naught! posted by _Boanerges_:

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As an American, you are as totally righteous as any one of us.
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As a human being you are no more righteous than the rest of us.
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Does that help you understand the meaning of righteous?
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-- posted by pink101