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» Brother_Jones - Brother Jones Excommunicates Me Again

In response to Brother Jones Excommunicates Me Again posted by pink101:

What did you do with your shovel?

I try to give it a nice wash everyday. What is all the stuff you are saying? I've never mentioned excommunication at all much less in connection with you. Remember me. I'm the one who objected first to the 'anathematizing,' in the Creed. You act a little jumpy this early in the morning and you don't seem to be able to speak your mind as well as at other times. Try to focus. I would certainly welcome you at the church I attend with open arms, Pinky.

i am the Lord's oldtimer.

-- posted by Brother_Jones

» pink101 - Certain About Anything

In response to Is Certitude Possible posted by BrianTubbs:

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Brian tests me with, Next question, Pink. Is it reasonable or possible to be CERTAIN of anything?.
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I'm sure it is. Doesn't that all depend on the nature of what is in question? Maybe we could discuss the certain involved in anything we consider to be a closed system?
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You think?
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-- posted by pink101

» pink101 - Brother Jones Excommunicates Me Again

In response to Brother Jones Excommunicates Me Again posted by Brother_Jones:
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I think I'm lucent.
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I was impressed that you started out with "I try" in your most recent post. Usually you're very direct in speaking in absolutes. lol
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You have often told me that I have some separate Jesus and just recently you mentioned something about me not being there in the after life. I think it is quite obvious that you--along with some others--have written me off as far as being in a state of reconciliation with God.
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But, I don't care what others think in that area--it has no bearing on reality.
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People who speak in absolutes have turned off every option not included in their ideologies. That is La Morte di La Verità..
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Are you unable to see that?
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Seriously?
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It shuts off all further knowledge of God. It forces all others into a dead end cul de sac where there is no exit. Excommunication--plain and simple.
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-- posted by pink101

» Brian Tubbs - Brother Jones Excommunicates Me Again

In response to Brother Jones Excommunicates Me Again posted by pink101:

Methinks you don't understand the concept of "excommunication." For someone to say in social or Internet conversation that "You're wrong" is not "excommunication" or akin to it.

» pink101 - Absolute Truth

In response to Brother Jones Excommunicates Me Again posted by BrianTubbs:
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It is when it comes to basics in mainline Christianity.
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But, that's okay. No one has to get too upset over it. Absolute Truth is the death of any options.
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-- posted by pink101

» Brian Tubbs - Speaking in Absolutes

In response to Brother Jones Excommunicates Me Again posted by pink101:

You have to give people the freedom, flexibility, and discretion to speak in absolute terms within the context of their POV.

I feel like you're putting people of religious faith in a position where they have to jettison any and all claims of certitude or else be dismissed as "absolutists" who shut off "further knowledge."

The irony here is that YOU, Pink, are making some absolutist type claims here. Example: It shuts off all further knowledge of God. It forces all others into a dead end cul de sac where there is no exit. Excommunication--plain and simple. Sounds like an absolutist statement to me.

I'm not trying to shin-kick or be troublesome. I truly and sincerely see a problem here. Absolutists and relativists (those are very broad categories, I know) always go round and round over this stuff. And what ends up happening are the relativists end up just as absolutist as the absolutists. The only difference is on the specifics.

» pink101 - Speaking in Absolutes

In response to Speaking in Absolutes posted by BrianTubbs:

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You have to give people the freedom, flexibility, and discretion to speak in absolute terms within the context of their POV.
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Why is that? Absolute Truth does not reciprocate--it closes off every option--and, thusly, it buries truth.
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Keep posting, I've got to split again. Off to the West Coast of Michigan; otherwise called the Third Coast 'round here.
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-- posted by pink101

» Brother_Jones - Brother Jones Excommunicates Me Again

In response to Brother Jones Excommunicates Me Again posted by pink101:

I think I'm lucent.

No question there. My concern was whether you ever attempt to focus your ideas. Especially when they go south on you. I think anybody else here would have taken notice of my post and changed the title on the thread, since I have never voiced or written anything about excommunication. But not you. You don't care about such trifles.

You have often told me that I have some separate Jesus and just recently you mentioned something about me not being there in the after life.

When you get to heaven, do you expect to see me in the bosom of Abraham?

But, I don't care what others think in that area--it has no bearing on reality.

lol. If you found me some night busted up and helpless, would you render aid? Or would you be afraid the authorities would pin the misdeed on you.. and would you run for cover? That is truly the person who doesn't care, because he/she has lost all belief in authority, especially a great authority.

It shuts off all further knowledge of God.

Cynicism, sarcasm, and uncertainty. Yea, that's the ticket to a god. But not the God. You do have a different Jesus. It is unmistakeable from a Christian perspective. So, just keep telling yourself that you are a reliable source of information about unknown god out there, and then follow that statement with your above statement, "I think I am lucent." You may need to repeat several times a day.

i am the Lord's oldtimer.

-- posted by Brother_Jones

» _Boanerges_ - I started a new thread

ABSOLUTES MUST EXIST
http://protestantism.suite101.com/discus...

-- posted by _Boanerges_

» _Boanerges_ - Speaking in Absolutes

In response to Speaking in Absolutes posted by BrianTubbs:
Sounds like an absolutist statement to me
I've pointed this out, over and again.. I think those who make such statements believe that if they repeat it long enough, people will simply tire of such nonsense. Well, that is true.. people eventually give up with such silliness... one reason why you do not see many people here participating....

but.. the very fact that Phil has made an hypocritical statement, and refuses to admit it, is enough to show why we have so many problems in this world.. It all centers around ego and pride.....

.....yawn yawn....

-- posted by _Boanerges_