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» _Boanerges_ - Something That Is?

In response to Something That Is? posted by Migisi:

actually, Mig.. It says everything about the child...
its a fleeting argument, and really, I cannot understand why you would persist in such...

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» Migisi - Something That Is?

In response to Something That Is? posted by _Boanerges_:
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It says everything about the child
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Does not, Wendell. Read it again.
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To make a claim that 2 married people have created a new being, might be something to some, but.. its actually useless and meaningless to me, personally.....
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Sure, it's meaningless to you, because you've never been married. You have no first-hand knowledge or personal experience on the subject. You can talk about it, but you've never lived it. Pink and I HAVE lived it - for decades. Basically, you said the same when we were discussing homosexuality -- telling us we couldn't speak with any understanding or authority since we were straight.

-- posted by Migisi

» _Boanerges_ - Something That Is?

In response to Something That Is? posted by Migisi:

Sure, it's meaningless to you, because you've never been married.

The reference refers to the creation of a 'new being'....

You have no first-hand knowledge or personal experience on the subject. You can talk about it, but you've never lived it. Pink and I HAVE lived it - for decades. Basically, you said the same when we were discussing homosexuality -- telling us we couldn't speak with any understanding or authority since we were straight.

Come on Mig.. how can you say such stupid things when I am not dictating to you or anyone about marriage...My comments are about creating a 'new being'.....

If you would take the time to re-read the discussion, you would find that this is what I am talking about.. All you are doing is creating a strawman argument, and frankly, insulting me....

I will forgive your misunderstand and look the other way, due to your possible not following along.. But, if you want to persist in such stupidity, all you are going to do is close yourself off to me..

now.. I dont want that.. do you..

-- posted by _Boanerges_

» pink101 - Hey, Illinois

In response to Something That Is? posted by _Boanerges_:
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HE is going to forgive YOU.
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I will forgive your misunderstand and look the other way, due to your possible not following along.. But, if you want to persist in such stupidity, all you are going to do is close yourself off to me..
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"now.. I dont want that.. do you.. "
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It doesn't take a highly experienced psychoanalyst of renown to get the threat in that statement, does it? Or it doesn't take a logician to see the connection between what it means to be stupid in this case and how that represents a level where rejection automatically takes place. It is an enormous insult. What implications!!
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Too bad.
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» _Boanerges_ - one flesh

Matthew
19:3: The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?

19:4: And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

19:5: And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

19:6: Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

19:7: They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
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The above scripture clear discusses marriage.... not, a new being.... A "new being" is a metaphysical pagan concept, and has not place, or reference in the Bible.....

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One flesh... the results of one flesh is - the child.....

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Today, in the modern world, society is changing what marriage is.. It is no longer Male and Female, nor is it one flesh. An example of this would be the queen of Liberalism - Hillary Rodham - Clinton.... An obvious statement of NOT being ONE flesh.....

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To argue against what the bible clearly states is foolishnes, and the results are clearly shown - making one look and sound - foolish.

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-- posted by _Boanerges_

» pink101 - one flesh

In response to one flesh posted by _Boanerges_:

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Far out.
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-- posted by pink101

» _Boanerges_ - one flesh

In response to one flesh posted by pink101:

Genesis 2:24: For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

Matthew 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

Mark 10:7-8: 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one.

1 Corinthians 6:16: What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

Ephesians 5:31: For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh

savrx (Greek) meaning - used of natural or physical origin, generation or relationship 1. born of natural generation

-- posted by _Boanerges_

» Migisi - one flesh

In response to one flesh posted by _Boanerges_:

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Yes, the verse is about marriage and divorce. I never refuted that. But there's NO reference at all to a child, offspring, progeny, etc. YOU might think so, but it doesn't ~~say~~ it.

-- posted by Migisi

» redback - Something That Is?

In response to Something That Is? posted by _Boanerges_:

understand your position OK...clearly no offence intended and clearly none taken.

The only thing new within these topics may be a fresh face or two or an older, wiser more contemplative one. It may be nice to believe some of us increase our understanding on some matters that matter some of the time but the 3C principle and Jaded Jeff suggests otherwise.

-- posted by redback

» Migisi - Something That Is?

In response to Something That Is? posted by _Boanerges_:

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I will forgive your misunderstand and look the other way, due to your possible not following along.. But, if you want to persist in such stupidity, all you are going to do is close yourself off to me..
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You're really funny, Wendell. I mean it. Thanks for the laugh.

-- posted by Migisi