Protestantism

» Brian Tubbs - Personal Interpretations

In response to Wrong, Pink, WRONG posted by pink101:

Jesus said that you will know people by their "fruit." It is a matter of fact that people will make personal judgments of others, based on their speech, actions, etc.

However, Jesus also said that we should "judge not, lest [we] be judged." Therefore, we should keep our personal appraisals of others tentative and humble.

I can't, with any authority, and should not, with any pride or air of superiority, declare who is and who is not a "Christian" or who is and who is not going to heaven. At least not when it comes to specific individuals.

I can, however, proclaim what Jesus said. I can preach what the Bible says. I'm citing a higher authority when I do so, not my own personal opinion.

I don't try to play God, but I do strive to follow God.

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» Brian Tubbs - Fifth

In response to Fifth posted by pink101:

I'm interested in the constitutional case you referenced - the one that deals with our military and of which you say I'll probably hear more about in the coming weeks/months. I look forward to hearing more about it.

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» pink101 - Fifth

In response to Fifth posted by BrianTubbs:
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Yeah. So, am I.
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I think Michael Weinstein may have something on his site about it.
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Are you familiar with his work?
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http://www.amazon.com/God-Our-Side-Evang...
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I think you can learn more at this location: http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/interv...
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-- posted by pink101

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» Migisi - Fifth

In response to Fifth posted by pink101:
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Go here, and click on "MRFF Readies Lawsuit Against Department Of Defense"
Military Religious Freedom Foundation
http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/...
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I've been following this issue for a while now, ever since it was broadcast on CNN.
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You can watch the promo film for "Christian Embassy" at the Pentagon - the focus of the problem of the military (notice the uniforms) promoting a specific religion. The chaplain applied to the DOD to film a 'day in the life' of a military chaplain. That's what the DOD approved. It's not what it turned out to be.
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DoD Inspector General Finds Misconduct by Pentagon Generals Participating in "Christian Embassy" Promo Video:
Military Religious Freedom Foundation's Exposé Vindicated
http://militaryreligiousfreedom.org/pres...

-- posted by Migisi

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» Migisi - Just one more...

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DoD-connected Christian group draws fire
http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/...
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A religious group has abandoned plans to send packages to U.S. troops in Iraq with the controversial Christian video game, "Left Behind: Eternal Force," along with Christian books, Pentagon officials say.
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Operation Straight Up is an official member of the Defense Department initiative "America Supports You," as one of more than 250 home-front groups that have joined the effort to support troops by sending letters, e-mails and care packages, and by giving assistance to military families, including the wounded and their families.
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On Aug. 15, the OSU Web site continued to report that the group is raising money to send "Freedom Packets" to troops in Iraq - but it has removed any reference to the "Left Behind" video game. Those packages were also to include a Gideon's pocket-sized New Testament, and the book "More than a Carpenter," by Josh McDowell, printed in English and translated into Arabic.
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OSU is active in the military in other ways. It sends entertainment troupes with the likes of actor Stephen Baldwin, the Flying Wallendas, pro football and wrestling stars, and others to perform free for military audiences. At the shows, they invite troops to attend events a week later called "Tough-Man Meetings," described as "boot camps for the soul."
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Weinstein also has harsh criticism for the Pentagon, which he called "the Pentecostal-gon." His book, "With God On Our Side," published in 2006, details his charges of religious intolerance in the U.S. armed forces. More than 5,000 service members have contacted his organization because "they say they are being preyed upon by groups using the military chain of command," he said.
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About 96 percent of those who said they were pressured are Christians themselves, he said. "But these groups are preying on non-evangelical Christians. They believe they have the only right faith, that everybody else is false."
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"We couldn't care less what someone's religious faith is," Weinstein said. "But you cannot use your position of authority to force [your religion] onto military subordinates," he said. "To send a para-church organization into a war zone undercuts the Chaplain Corps."
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Lawyer and minister Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, said: "This is just the thing to convince Islamic militants that America is on a religious crusade to convert Muslims to Christianity. This officially connects DoD to make it look like the U.S. government is on a crusade. There appears to be a very deep connection between this allegedly private group promoting evangelical Christianity and the military itself. It doesn't matter what the religion is. The government is supposed to be neutral. It is supposed to be hands-off on that."
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Lynn, who said he characterizes OSU as a fundamentalist Christian group, said that if they planned to send a Christian book translated in Arabic, "one assumes they want troops to distribute it in Arab neighborhoods."
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The OSU Web site states: "We can only hope that since the book is double printed on the reverse side in the Arabic language that it will indeed influence the nations overseas as well."
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U.S. customs restrictions prohibit mailing bulk quantities of religious materials to Iraq that run contrary to the tenets of Islamic faith.
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"The intent of the customs prohibition against mailing religious items stems from the host country's concern about distributing these materials to its citizens," the U.S. Postal Service's Web site states.

-- posted by Migisi

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» pink101 - Fifth

In response to Fifth posted by Migisi:

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I think I remember when you first brought this situation to our attention some time ago.
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I saw Weinstein on the toob the other day and was amazed--again--at the audacity of those who work so hard to PUSH their beliefs in Absolute Truth on the rest of us, Things can be shook in just about every direction; but, when we add the impact of Absolute Truth as seen by Evangelicals, we KNOW why our president has invested the lifes of so many in his War on Terrorism. It's all about the Battle for to obtain God's rule over humanity.
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» Migisi - Fifth

In response to Fifth posted by pink101:
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It's all about the Battle for to obtain God's rule over humanity.
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The Christian Bible God's rule, and no other.
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When one enlists in the military, the DoD owns him. He becomes DoD property - body, mind, and soul - to do with whatever they want. There's a rather crude but true saying... "when you've got em by the short hairs, their hearts and minds will follow". That's Bush's military and foreign policy.

-- posted by Migisi

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» pink101 - Sycophantry

In response to Fifth posted by Migisi:
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That's Bush's military and foreign policy.
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Sure it is.
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But, in America, every single individual person who is inducted into the military takes an oath of office which includes the promise to uphold and to defend the Constitution,
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Problem is BROWN NOSING! Other words can be used to describe the way promotions are given and assignments are made in the military. General Betrayus knows where he got his promotion and he knows exactly how he will be able to maintain the position he enjoys. He knows that he can be replaced in a flash. That is the problem with suck a** generals. I'll tell you what Eisenhower would have done with this bunch of syophants--tomorrow morning at dawn. The military is no place for sycophantry; but, we've got it all the way and it is a serious danger for our democracy.
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And, you don't have to be a genius to see it.
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-- posted by pink101

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» Brian Tubbs - Military Chaplaincy

Let's get back to the Nicene Creed. The military chaplaincy warrants its own thread, and I have a LOT to say on the subject - since I'm a US Army Chaplain Candidate.

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» pink101 - Military Chaplaincy

In response to Military Chaplaincy posted by BrianTubbs:

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Go for it. Use the posts that have been made here in the creation of the new thread.
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-- posted by pink101

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