Protestantism

» Brian Tubbs - Okie-dokie

In response to Doctrine and Fundamentalists posted by pink101:

Gotcha.

I think you've got people in both camps, though. Rick Warren, for example, is pretty fundamentalist in his basic doctrines, but he's also very open - much to the chagrin of hardcore fundies. And he puts feet to his faith. He's done some impressive work with AIDS, for example.

Even Jerry Falwell. What a lot of people don't realize is how far Falwell moved in his life. He started out as a pretty, close-minded, arch fundamentalist (though he always had a heart for community service and local ministry to the sick and poor) to being pretty open in his evangelicalism. Falwell was ostracized, you know, from many in the fundamentalist camp.

» pink101 - Okie-dokie

In response to Okie-dokie posted by BrianTubbs:
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My first response, the one I didn't post, went into some detail and explained Christianity as though it could be seen in a bell curve with a combination of Fundamentalists and Evangelicals making up the center and the edge to the right being pure Fundamentalists and the edge to the left being pure Evangelical..
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There seems to be a big swing toward a post modern form of Calvinism that is making heavy changes in popular Christian thinking. So called "Faith Based" social welfare programs and "Compassionate Conservatism" as a political expression of that change?

-- posted by pink101

» paper_turtle - Doctrine and Fundamentalists

In response to Doctrine and Fundamentalists posted by BrianTubbs:

Phil wrote:
It is the Fundamentalist branch of Christianity that includes the group of people who make it their business to actually read and study the Bible from a doctrinal point of view.
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Brian responded:
What's wrong with this?
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That's exactly what Tutu is doing, Brian--studying the Bible from the position of the doctrine of the Anglican church--and yet you have implied that he does not hold the Bible as authoritative because his doctrinal position differs from yours.
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle
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» pink101 - Worldly

In response to Doctrine and Fundamentalists posted by paper_turtle:
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My comment was, probably, too rigid the way it was put. I should have used a qualifier like, for the most part, or, in large, to show that it isn't just the Fundamentalist that studies the Bible; But, if the general church goer is taken into consideration, then I think that Fundamentalism has more people who read the Bible if only on Sunday mornings when they "follow along" with their preacher as he reads the "text for the day". Fundamentalists are more apt to walk their talk than the Evangelicals who are more apt to be "worldly" in their ways.
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So, Tutu might be seen as being more worldly than Charles Stanley or John Hagee.
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» paper_turtle - Worldly

In response to Worldly posted by pink101:
So, Tutu might be seen as being more worldly than Charles Stanley or John Hagee.
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I don't know enough about Stanley or Hagee, nor am I certain how you're using the word "worldly."
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From my definition of "worldly," Tutu definitely is not. I define "worldly" as being interested in externals--wealth, fame, status, power.
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

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» pink101 - Worldly

In response to Worldly posted by paper_turtle:

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From a Fundamentalist point of view, worldly can mean anything that isn't in line with the Fundamentals and the associated doctrines.
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» pink101 - We Killed Jesus--We'll Kill You Too

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http://zionistsout.blogspot.com/2006/12/...
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Check it out.
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Peace?
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-- posted by pink101

» pink101 - Listen To This

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Here's an audio book you can listen to for free:
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http://www.endofreligion.com/audio/Chapt...
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I hope you can get this, Sister Turtle, as I am sure you will enjoy it.
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It has a great deal to do with the central ideas of Christianity as presented by Jesus. And, not at all like the ideas put on the table by Christian popularists.
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» pink101 - Watch This One

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This is quite an interesting talk by Rabbi Sacks.
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http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/502/
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Watch it or listen to it.
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You might enjoy it.
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Who knows?

-- posted by pink101

» pink101 - Watch This One

In response to Watch This One posted by pink101:

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This video is an excellent resource for anyone who values the idea of discourse over military war as a way of settling ideological differences.
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Rabbi Sacks has got his act together. He is right on regarding the problems with which we are faced in the Middle East.
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Will he be listened to?
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The talk and the question period last an hour and 31 minutes. Well worth listening to.
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-- posted by pink101