Protestantism

» pink101 - Christians and Jews

In response to Christians and Jews posted by BrianTubbs:

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The word, extreme:
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Quick definitions (extreme)

# noun: the furthest or highest degree of something (Example: "He carried it to extremes")
# noun: the point located farthest from the middle of something
# adjective: of the greatest possible degree or extent or intensity (Example: "Extreme cold")
# adjective: far beyond a norm in quantity or amount or degree; to an utmost degree (Example: "An extreme example")
# adjective: beyond a norm in views or actions (Example: "An extreme conservative")
# adjective: most distant in any direction (Example: "The extreme edge of town")
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Accordingly, it looks like I used the proper word when I identified your definition as extreme.
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In any event, my point is that using that definition excludes each and every person who doesn't agree with you from being able to identify with Jesus.
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And, that--in and of itself--is a self righteous position similar to what is at the root of all the problems in the World of Islam.
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It is the basis of an argument if not a sectarian fight between "Christians". You have judged me to not be a Christian. Where do you get your authority to do that?
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-- posted by pink101

» pink101 - So My Question

In response to Christians and Jews posted by pink101:
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So, my question to you might be, why are you so intent on separating those who don't agree with you from Jesus?
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I'm knocking on a big, big door that reminds me of one of those iron clad doors on those enormous castles you see in movies like Young Frankenstein. Clang, clang, clang. And, the lightening flashes and the thunder roars. Just for asking, I'm seen as being a member of the unwashed--an unworthy outsider.
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-- posted by pink101

» Brian Tubbs - Original Meaning

In response to Christians and Jews posted by pink101:

Pink, I'm not judging anyone here. Whether you accept Jesus as your Lord is your decision to make. This is not a debate on judgment, but rather a debate on DEFINITION.

Am I being judgmental, for example, to say that a person who lives in France and has French citizenship is NOT an "American"?

» Brian Tubbs - So My Question

In response to So My Question posted by pink101:

This is a strange question, Pink. I believe that JESUS laid out the terms of all this when he said: "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes unto the Father but by me." (John 14:6)

Now, if someone chooses to place their identity and/or their quest for spiritual enlightenment and/or their desire to get to heaven on someone or something else besides Jesus....well... that is THEIR decision. Not mine. I'm not "separating" anybody from anything. They have made their own choice.

» Migisi - So My Question

In response to So My Question:
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Arrogance: an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions.

-- posted by Migisi

» _Boanerges_ - So My Question

In response to So My Question posted by Migisi:

Assurance - even more strongly stresses certainty and can suggest arrogance: How can you explain an abstruse theory with such assurance?

People often get confused over the differences between [confidence] and [arrogance]....

-- posted by _Boanerges_

» _Boanerges_ - Assurance

John 3:3
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Acts 17:30-32
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. (And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this matter.)

Matthew 26:28
(Jesus said) For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Revelation 22:17
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

-- posted by _Boanerges_

» pink101 - A Strange Question, Pink

In response to So My Question posted by BrianTubbs:
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In the comments you posted (#123) in The Bible thread, you made a comment about me and you told me to correct you if you were misrepresenting me.
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I started this thread for that purpose.
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My belief in Jesus is exactly that--mine.
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In this thread, I asked why you are so intent on separating others from Jesus who don't accept your definition of what it means to be Christian. And, you responded with, "This is a a strange question, Pink. I believe that JESUS laid out the terms of all this when he said: 'I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes unto the Father but by me.' (John 14:6)".
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I had a problem of understanding complex ideas when I was in the ninth grade of junior high school. Learning to diagram sentences solved it for me. The ideas presented by Jesus are very complex try as some religionists might to turn them into some simple-minded theory about the after life and inherited guilt--blood guilt.
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If I put what you've posted together, it is very apparent to me that you see yourself as a judge with the prerogative to separate people from having a relationship with Jesus. Not only you; but, others who post here as well. I can name them if you like.
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You might not think so; but, let me remind you in a friendly manner that you come here as an ordained minister. That gives you a special authority and causes many other people to look up to what you say and do as though you have some special rights (prerogatives) others do not possess.
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I wonder why people who practice that behavior think they have any authority to be so bodacious.
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So, I asked you why you do that and you responded that it is a strange question. Hasn't anyone ever asked you that before?
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-- posted by pink101

» Brother_Jones - A Strange Question, Pink

In response to A Strange Question, Pink posted by pink101:

judge with the prerogative to separate people from having a relationship with Jesus. Not only you; but, others who post here as well. I can name them if you like.

Some of this stuff you come up with is just silly. If a Christian attempts to share with others that they should have a relationship with Jesus Christ, you are going to object and be the first person to complain in some way. You spend much more time than anybody else here attempting to discourage anyone from giving their life to Jesus as Lord. But you are somehow committed to this farce of a smoke screen that somehow you are leading the way in helping people find Jesus. It is like the stuff of situation comedies.

You might not think so; but, let me remind you in a friendly manner that you come here as an ordained minister. That gives you a special authority and causes many other people to look up to what you say and do as though you have some special rights (prerogatives) others do not possess.

More idiotic nonsense. You and Brian are the only confessed Baptists here. And you certainly don't cut any slack because he is a Baptist or minister, and since you share little to nothing with anyone of that denomination. I confess that I don't regard Brian as a spokeman for Christianity because of his ordination or his denomination. I've known too many. He has seemed to prove his worth simply because he is a good thinker and seems to have a good heart, and he appears to believe the bible like any follower of Christ would.

i am just an oldtimer for the Lord.

-- posted by Brother_Jones

» pink101 - YOU Make My Point For Me

In response to A Strange Question, Pink posted by Brother_Jones:
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YOU make my point for me, Brother Jones.
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How's that?
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By being the final authority of what it means to be a Christian. Those people who don't line up with you are separated from Jesus.
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That's too bad.
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Whatever happened to the law upon which all others hang? And, how does that work?
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And, YOU also include _Boenerges_ in your group. Every person who observes knows what is going on here regardless of the claims of the self righteous. No one needs any of us to describe reality for them. They do it for themselves. We are merely actors on the stage.
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-- posted by pink101