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» _Boanerges_ - You Expose Yourself
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» pink101 - Here, Wendell
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» _Boanerges_ - Here, Phil
In response to Here, Wendell posted by pink101:
2Pe:3:3: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Pe:3:4: And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
2Pe:3:5: For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe:3:6: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe:3:7: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
The open of Genesis states "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And the earth was without form, and void;
this verse indicates that something was here before Adam....
-- posted by _Boanerges_
» pink101 - Here, Phil
In response to Here, Phil posted by _Boanerges_:
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Okay. I went down that road before you were born.
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But,. here's something that some people will like:
http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/...
-- posted by pink101
» _Boanerges_ - went down that road
In response to Here, Phil posted by pink101:
yeah.. but you offer a link that ridicules the 7 day creation time frame in the Bible by using the model of evolution... Either man evolved or God created him.. there is no other choice...
and to boot.... the earth as "billions" of yrs old makes complete sense if indeed there was "something" here before Adam..
So.. the moral of the story is.. why would you offer a comedic link ridiculing creation by using evolution as the foundational premise, when the Bible indicates that the earth was without form and void... or.. that is.. being made desolate...?
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-- posted by _Boanerges_
» pink101 - The Old Nick
In response to went down that road posted by _Boanerges_:-- posted by pink101
» Brother_Jones - The Old Nick
In response to The Old Nick posted by pink101:
It is good to laugh at ourselves from time to time. I do think that the average person is not aware of how much controversy is swirling around Darwinian Evolution and it being a considered fact. I'm not sure how straight line jokes about it are going to stand up to future generations once they are exposed to scientists like Michael Behe and such concepts as the irreducable complexity argument of a single cell. But in the meantime, we can all pretend that all scientists are all on board with an earth that is billions and billions of years old and man somehow came up from the gue and then about 20 or 30 thousand years ago started thinking and writing complex thoughts on rocks and skins. A lot of holes to fill for the Evolutionist that seem to make no logical sense concerning a time frame for change. It makes a 7 day creation look easy in my way of thinking compared to what it must have taken evolution to evolve the human eye.
Anyway the comedian spent all his time ridiculing the usual suspects. Some of it pretty funny, but it gets sorta old when you can always hit the punch lines yourself with the oft mentioned Jerry Falwell, Pres. Bush, and the Evangelicals.
i am just an oldtimer for the Lord.
-- posted by Brother_Jones
» Brother_Jones - The Old Nick
In response to The Old Nick posted by pink101:
It is good to laugh at ourselves from time to time. I do think that the average person is not aware of how much controversy is swirling around Darwinian Evolution and it being a considered fact. I'm not sure how straight line jokes about it are going to stand up to future generations once they are exposed to scientists like Michael Behe and such concepts as the irreducable complexity argument of a single cell. But in the meantime, we can all pretend that all scientists are all on board with an earth that is billions and billions of years old and man somehow came up from the gue and then about 20 or 30 thousand years ago started thinking and writing complex thoughts on rocks and skins. A lot of holes to fill for the Evolutionist that seem to make no logical sense concerning a time frame for change. It makes a 7 day creation look easy in my way of thinking compared to what it must have taken evolution to evolve the human eye.
Anyway the comedian spent all his time ridiculing the usual suspects. Some of it pretty funny, but it gets sorta old when you can always hit the punch lines yourself with the oft mentioned Jerry Falwell, Pres. Bush, and the Evangelicals.
i am just an oldtimer for the Lord.
-- posted by Brother_Jones
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Brian Tubbs
- Evidence/Proof
I haven't read through this entire thread yet, but I see that the discussion began with a back-and-forth on (among other things) the subject of evidence and proof for the Bible.
Migisi, is it your position that there is no evidence for any aspect of the Bible whatsoever????
I don't want to caricature you or erect a strawman here, BUT you constantly attack the notion that there is evidence supporting even PART of the Bible.
I think the vast majority of people in general would at least agree that SOME of the Bible is true.
Let's take the mainstream Protestant canonized Bible - 66 books. Are you going to tell me that most or all of the content of those 66 books is inaccurate or falsified? Is that your position?
» Brother_Jones - Gen 2:1-3
2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested [a] from all his work. 3 And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.
Certainly it is likely that this piece of writing will seem crafted by some sort of wiley coyote or to another, the best of the angels among us. It is a narrative about a piece of work that was completed in a time frame that almost all of us dispute both with our mind and heart.. We can't imagine creating a world in a few days, or the motivation of such a thing. And maybe the actual harder thing to imagine is a Being that would just stop what He is doing and take some time off to rest, or medidate, or whatever God might think appropriate on His day off with Himself. This passage is one of those that somehow I was able to lock onto as a young lad, and I began to believe that the world did have a fuse of sorts and that life on planet earth was limited by the mind of God.
i am just an oldtimer for the Lord.
-- posted by Brother_Jones
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