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1.   Jun 28, 2007 11:11 AM

» Feature Writer Brian Tubbs - Gambling


Speaking of addictions, what do you all think of gambling?

We're uniting in our community right now to keep casino developers out. We don't want Clinton County to be become the Las Vegas/Atlantic City of Ohio.

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2.   Jun 28, 2007 12:01 PM

» pink101 - Gambling

In response to Gambling posted by BrianTubbs:
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Good luck.
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You'll need it. Big money trumps the electorate.
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-- posted by pink101


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3.   Jun 29, 2007 8:09 AM

» Migisi - Gambling

In response to Gambling posted by BrianTubbs:
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If you're going to be the Carrie Nation of gambling, you gotta ax it all...
The Bingo games in the church basements get the hatchet.
And the state lotteries.
Football pools and sports betting.
Off track horse/dog race betting.
Fast food scratch offs.
Community 'Las Vegas Night'.
Card games around the kitchen table.
And ALL raffles.
That way (and in all fairness) everybody's fun is stopped, not just the casino-goer's.

-- posted by Migisi


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4.   Jun 29, 2007 9:03 AM

» Feature Writer Brian Tubbs - Gambling

In response to Gambling posted by Migisi:


Don't know what you mean by "Carrie Nation"? But there's a difference - a BIG difference - between soft gambling like you're talking about and hardcore Las Vegas style gambling. In particular, consider what the latter does to a community.

There's soft gambling going on right now in Clinton County and it hasn't dramatically affected the community. Bring in casinos, though, and that will be a different story.

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5.   Jun 29, 2007 9:06 AM

» pink101 - Gambling

In response to Gambling posted by BrianTubbs:


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Will these casinos be owned by Native American Tribes like they are in Michigan?
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6.   Jun 29, 2007 2:30 PM

» Feature Writer Brian Tubbs - Gambling

In response to Gambling posted by pink101:


Nope, developer owned and operated

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7.   Jun 29, 2007 6:26 PM

» pink101 - Gambling

In response to Gambling posted by BrianTubbs:


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Sounds pretty raw to me.
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Hope you're successful in keeping them out.
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8.   Jun 29, 2007 10:35 PM

» redback - Soft Gambling

In response to Gambling posted by Migisi:


Out in my working class suburb, people can't afford to travel to the casinos. They've lost all their money on poker machines which are in every pub and club. Just down the road from me is the famous Rooty Hill RSL Club described as the "Las Vegas of the West" until your casinos went for copyright. It is a club, not a casino.

But doncha think 'the all or nothing approach' or 'get rid of the others first' approach is unkind on decisionmakers? happy

-- posted by redback


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9.   Jun 30, 2007 8:07 AM

» Migisi - Gambling

In response to Gambling posted by BrianTubbs:


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Don't know what you mean by "Carrie Nation"?
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History teacher, go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrie_Nati...
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There's soft gambling going on right now in Clinton County and it hasn't dramatically affected the community. Bring in casinos, though, and that will be a different story.
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If soft gambling hasn't led to hard core addictions, what makes you think there will be an increase because of casinos? Wouldn't those with the addiction have a problem controlling their soft gambling too?
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A lot depends on what requirements your community leaders demand from the casino developers. We have several casinos in the Chicagoland area. Two in particular were intentionally located in slum areas of Aurora and Joliet. There was an ~amazing~ transformation of those slums into clean and beautiful neighborhoods surrounding the casinos before and during their construction. Today, these neighborhoods are free of hookers, bums, drug dealers, gangs, and creeps. (I'm sure some are there, but they're not hanging on the street corners.) The ~casinos~ were required to donate a lot of money for community improvements. Those who were previously jobless now have employment in the casinos and surrounding businesses. The crime rate ~has~ gone down because employment and police presence has gone up. The casinos attract business - which is now booming for gas stations, hotels, restaurants, little shops, etc. These depressed neighborhoods ~needed~ that shot in the arm - an injection of money (so to speak). Most who frequent the casinos are occasional visitors - not hard core gamblers. The hard-core quickly become a nuisance and an embarrassment for the casino, and are turned away (from what the card dealers tell me). It's more a Mr. and Mrs. having a night out on the town, a girl's nite out, a bachelor party kind of clientele. I was once afraid to enter those neighborhoods, but that's changed - for the better.
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Just some positive things to consider.

-- posted by Migisi


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