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» Migisi - You herald dissent

In response to You herald dissent posted by pink101:

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We haven't been able to reason together ever since Bush stole the election... It's hight time we begin to reason.
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I couldn't agree more. But the damage can't be undone. Ya can't put a spent bullet back in the gun barrel.

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» pink101 - You herald dissent--erata

In response to You herald dissent posted by pink101:

Explitive

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» Migisi - You herald dissent

In response to You herald dissent posted by BrianTubbs:
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In my world, people start out with 100% respect, and can only lose points by their own doing.
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Our govenment leaders have lost the respect and trust of the majority - not just me. Consider the current ratings they've received. They - Repubs and Dems alike - have shown themselves to be liars. Can anyone 'reason' with liars?

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» pink101 - 100% Respect

In response to You herald dissent posted by Migisi:
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These people may have qualifed for your respect at one time:
Republicans --
* Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.
* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
* Tom Delay: did not serve.
* Bill Frist: did not serve.
* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
* Rick Santorum: did not serve.
* Trent Lott: did not serve.
* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
* Jeb Bush: did not serve.
* Karl Rove: did not serve.
* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.
* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
* Richard Perle: did not serve.
* Douglas Feith: did not serve.
* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
* Richard Shelby: did not serve.
* Jon Kyl: did not serve.
* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
* Christopher Cox: did not serve.
* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.
* George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared from duty.
* B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.
* Phil Gramm: did not serve.
* John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.
* Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
* JC Watts: did not serve.
* Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," although continued in NFL for 8 years.
* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.
* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
* George Pataki: did not serve.
* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.
* Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base.
* Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role making movies.
Democrats:
* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
* Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor,Vietnam.
* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.
* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, Purple Hearts.
* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt.,Army 1948-52; Bronze star,Korea.
* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam.
* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.
* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve,1968-74.
* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
* Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam,DFCs, Bronze Stars, and Soldier's Medal.
* Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart,Silver Star and Legion of Merit.
* Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne,Purple Heart.
* Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.
* Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
* Chuck Robb: Vietnam
* Howell Heflin: Silver Star
* George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.
* Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but received #311.
* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953
* John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII.
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Source: http://usliberals.about.com/b/a/203247.h...
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» redback - You herald dissent

In response to You herald dissent posted by pink101:

Well...sorta. The term is 'Crikey' without the ick and it's not really considered an expletive here which I'm guessing is what you intended with 'explitice'. ABC

Reasoning leads to accepting differences leads to some decisions needing to be made that are not universally tolerable. If we all await consensus so that only warm and fuzzy decisions are only ever made in our favour, can we at least agree that those who DO sit down and reason together, do so on our behalf. But can you really trust them?

I'm really just an onlooker to this discussion. Please carry on.

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» pink101 - You herald dissent

In response to You herald dissent posted by redback:

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We're all onlookers.
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Crikey.
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» Migisi - 100% Respect

In response to 100% Respect posted by pink101:

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Hmm. It's so easy for those who managed to weasel out of military service to send others abroad to die, ay?
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Just FYI for parents of high school kids:
Army Uses Aggressive Tactics to Recruit Teenagers
http://usliberals.about.com/od/homelands...
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"High School Campus Recruiting Buried in President Bush's much-touted No Child Left Behind Act of 2002 was Section 9528, a requirement that all public and private high schools receiving federal funds must "provide access to students' names, addresses and phone numbers" to military recruiters. It also mandates that high schools must allow military recruiters the same campus access to students as is granted to college recruiters and prospective employers.
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"High schools that don't comply with these requirement will lose federal funding, which would likely force closure of the school. The only exceptions to this law are private schools that can prove a "verifiable historical historical objection to military service."
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"Parents may opt out of allowing their students' data from being released to military recruiters by signing an optional form. However, many parents are unaware of the optional form, and many schools have not made the form readily available to parents." (end quote)
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Nobody at my son's high school ever mentioned this 'opt out' form to me.

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» pink101 - Blow Your Mind

In response to 100% Respect posted by Migisi:
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Here's a link that will blow your mind:
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http://www.apfn.org/audio/Skull-and-Bone...
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» Migisi - Blow Your Mind

In response to Blow Your Mind posted by pink101:
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Iraq Vets Arrested at Pentagon
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xaaeCwfwKqs
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DEPLETED URANIUM ALERT!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zg7nH8djiVQ&m...
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CNN's Dangers of Depleted Uranium
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PL-wi5J4yh0&m...
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triple

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» Migisi - Iraqi babies deformed

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If you have the stomach to watch this:
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Effects of Depleted Uranium on People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2tTLmR1D...
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And we wonder why we're hated in the Middle East!?
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Depleted Uranium - The Ultimate Dirty Bomb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg2NHfoC2...
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And the permanent exposure and damage to our own sons and daughters!! God forgive our government and military leaders!! I can't.

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