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Drug Addiction

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39.   Jun 20, 2007 2:59 PM

» pink101 - Hot Days & Chilly Nights

In response to Hot Days & Chilly Nights posted by paper_turtle:


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fffoooooo...
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:~)
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40.   Jun 20, 2007 6:25 PM

» redback - My Assumption

In response to My Assumption posted by pink101:


"My observations exactly."

While I was careful to focus on the addict and their dependence, I saw a subtle shift in your approach...from the "driven" addict to those who simply use thus have greater control and insight into the consequences. All of the examples I gave above ARE exposed addicts here. I'm sure many more examples can be found among the "hidden" users who have and think they have, control.

If we talk about drug use and abuse more generally, tis a multilayered concept. I'm not weigherd down by religious and moral baggage.

"Why do our various media treat illegal substances as they do?"

This is one of your pet subjects so many answers already lie under the surface of your question. "As they do" is varied and inconsistent" kinda like politicians and their collective political will. Populist reporting according to the noise they perceive from the responses they get??

I see a great range of 'treatment' for any number of motives. And that's just in the media I access. Do we expect all the media to return to the good old days of investigative journalism or do what many do now..simply report back what they think they see with their myopic vision? I for one don't sense the power of the media to dictate my responses, although I'm sure there are affected souls "out there."

Once I learned the impact of drug use on the first psychotic episode in a person's life and in fact, the onset of chronic mental illness...I'm not inclined to promote their relative safety features until that known risk is far better quantified.

Illegal substances fit into the cycle of crime I referred to earlier. If it is 'decriminalised', what happens to the cycle? Will it remove psychotic behaviour resulting in jail, family distress, job loss etc? Or consistently better quality drug production that users will need to adjust to?

I really doubt on all the quality evidence, that drug use has no cost to mental health and no cost on sound judgements needed for a myriad reasons in our lives. And I don't look to the media for guidance here.

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41.   Jun 21, 2007 4:33 AM

» pink101 - My Assumption

In response to My Assumption posted by redback:


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"...one of your pet subjects ..."
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Heh heh.
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Maybe a "pet subject" could qualify as a substance of addiction.
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:~)
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42.   Jun 21, 2007 10:41 PM

» redback - My Assumption

In response to My Assumption posted by pink101:


"Maybe a "pet subject" could qualify as a substance of addiction."

To coin a phrase:
"You raise some good questions and points."
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43.   Jun 22, 2007 4:33 AM

» pink101 - My Assumption

In response to My Assumption posted by redback:


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44.   Jun 22, 2007 7:24 AM

» Migisi - DANGEROUS drugs

In response to What I Mean posted by pink101:
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Why not put heavy emphasis on vicodin and other narcotic pain killers that are abused.
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You bring up a good topic which I think gets so little attention - and that is the 'legal' and 'prescribed' drug abuser.
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Can't sleep, or too tired? Can't lose weight - or can't gain weight? Lil' Johnny acting up in school? Are you depressed? Your joints hurt? Need to perform in bed for 72 hours? Here... take these pills! We have a pill for EVERYTHING. We've become a chemical dependent society.
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I've seen more drug ads on TV than ever before. Ever listen to their LONG list of side effects? Read the drug information pamphlets from the pharmacy. One actually reads 'there's a risk of a fatal event when using XXX'. FATAL event?? That's DEATH!! Check a good Rx fact book the next time your doctor prescribes. Go online. Talk about dangerous and addictive drugs!! Who are the dealers and pushers? Pharm companies and doctors.
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And people are jailed for possessing a bag of grass?

-- posted by Migisi

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45.   Jun 23, 2007 8:14 PM

» redback - DANGEROUS drugs

In response to DANGEROUS drugs posted by Migisi:


I agree with you and Pink. The abuse of prescription drugs...and the lazy doctor who also enables this, ought to be better addressed.

There is a local surgery I call Dr No-Names. As a current interstate visitor proved, she could get prescriptions without examination and without the doctor introducing herself. I have been wary+ about "happy pills" since my late wife's psychological addiction to them.

Here, the pharmacists' codes of practice require them to discuss the effects of medication and answer questions. I know my local one does. They'll also freely print out the product details which is from MIMS.

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46.   Jun 24, 2007 2:53 PM

» pink101 - DANGEROUS drugs

In response to DANGEROUS drugs posted by redback:


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People who are addicted to such substances as alcohol and cocaine are prone to use narcotics like vicodin in order to increase the effects of their highs.
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Is there a heavy effort to make marijuana a dangerous substance in the Land of Oz?
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47.   Jun 24, 2007 8:08 PM

» redback - DANGEROUS drugs

In response to DANGEROUS drugs posted by pink101:

A comprehensive analysis on the weed found among numerous other things:
Cannabis policy has not been separated from that of other drugs...arguments about consequences ...have not been separated from the argument about morals...the goals of the 'war on drugs' are unrealistic...harms caused by the control regimes outweigh the harms caused by the drug itself..."
from page 4 of a 96 page report:
http://www.health.gov.au/internet/wcms/p...
may give profound hope to some that all answers will be found by holding our collective breaths...now. happy
The weight of the current effort doesn't equate with the quality of the needed effort.

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48.   Jun 25, 2007 1:50 PM

» pink101 - Collective Breaths

In response to DANGEROUS drugs posted by redback:
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"...holding our collective breaths...."
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I like that.
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fffoooooooo.
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