Protestantism

» pink101 - Capitalism ALWAYS

In response to Ron Paul posted by _Boanerges_:
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"...what a joke America has become..."
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I am sure you don't mean that as though it were something to make us laugh.
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But, you are correct in that it is a cruel joke and it is a joke on We the People.
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Capitalism ALWAYS leads to fascism when it is allowed to run unbridled.
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I watched our president the other day in one of his press meetings. He remarked, when he was asked a certain question, "This isn't my first rodeo, heh heh.". And, yer dang tootin' it isn't his first. He is one tough hombre with whom we must deal--a wild west cowboy. His is a gun for hire.
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He has done his most diligent to give unbridled capitalism a free run. They want certain liberties and freedoms off the books. The Patriot Act was made permanent by our sell out legislature in 2005. Habeus Corpus has been suspended in America--after 800 years down the road from Magna Carta. We are headed toward fascism in America.
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-- posted by pink101

» _Boanerges_ - We are headed toward fascism in America.

In response to Capitalism ALWAYS posted by pink101:

no doubt... if we are not there already..
this is why I will vote for Ron Paul...

as for our president.. what an embarrassment... its painful to watch that man speak...

jeeez...

-- posted by _Boanerges_

» Migisi - We are headed toward fascism in America.

In response to We are headed toward fascism in America. posted by _Boanerges_:

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its painful to watch that man speak...
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I hear that! That's why I stopped watching and listening to him years ago.

-- posted by Migisi

» pink101 - Is There Anyone Here?

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Is there anyone here who knows if the Patriot Act authorizes the creation of a secret federal police force?
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - Is There Anyone Here?

In response to Is There Anyone Here? posted by pink101:
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Read Sec. 605, Creation of the Uniformed Division, United States Secret Service (the SS) here:
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http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquery/?&...

-- posted by Migisi

» pink101 - Gestapo?

In response to Is There Anyone Here? posted by Migisi:
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Now, could you find the wording in the Nazi Germany Enabling Act*** that authorized the creation of the Geheime staatliche Polizei.
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***(Similar to America's Patriot Act)
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - Is There Anyone Here?

In response to Is There Anyone Here? posted by pink101:

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Benjamin Franklin:
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security."
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Samuel Adams:
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
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H. L. Mencken:
"I believe that liberty is the only genuinely valuable thing that men have invented, at least in the field of government, in a thousand years. I believe that it is better to be free than to be not free, even when the former is dangerous and the latter safe. I believe that the finest qualities of man can flourish only in free air - that progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress, and of no permanent value. I believe that any man who takes the liberty of another into his keeping is bound to become a tyrant, and that any man who yields up his liberty, in however slight the measure, is bound to become a slave."

-- posted by Migisi

» pink101 - Is There Anyone Here?

In response to Is There Anyone Here? posted by Migisi:

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That's reason enough to drink Samuel Adams Beer.
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - Gestapo?

In response to Gestapo? posted by pink101:

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"An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland." - Adolph Hitler proposing the creation of the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.
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Text of Article 48:
"If a state does not fulfill the obligations laid upon it by the Reich constitution or Reich laws, the Reich President may use armed force to cause it to oblige.
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"In case public safety is seriously threatened or disturbed, the Reich President may take the measures necessary to reestablish law and order, if necessary using armed force. In the pursuit of this aim, he may suspend the civil rights described in articles 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124 and 153, partially or entirely.
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"The Reich President must inform the Reichstag immediately about all measures undertaken based on paragraphs 1 and 2 of this article. The measures must be suspended immediately if the Reichstag so demands.
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"If danger is imminent, the provincial government may, for their specific territory, implement steps as described in paragraph 2. These steps may be suspended if so demanded by the Reich President or the Reichstag.
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"Further details shall be established by Reich legislation."
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_F...
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(quote) "The preamble and Article 1 of the Reichstag Fire Decree show the methods by which the civil rights protections of the Weimar Republic's democratic constitution were abolished in a legal manner by the Nazis:
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Order of the Reich President for the Protection of People and State
"On the basis of Article 48 paragraph 2 of the Constitution of the German Reich, the following is ordered in defense against Communist state-endangering acts of violence:
§ 1. Articles 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124 and 153 of the Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. It is therefore permissible to restrict the rights of personal freedom [habeas corpus], freedom of opinion, including the freedom of the press, the freedom to organize and assemble, the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications, and warrants for house searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed."
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More to read here: Gestapo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo
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"To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists, for they erode our national unity and diminish our resolve. They give ammunition to America's enemies..."
- John Ashcroft
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-- posted by Migisi

» _Boanerges_ - Is There Anyone Here?

In response to Is There Anyone Here? posted by pink101:

Federal Police?...

that would be an outrage if Americans knew that...

yes.. we do have federal police...

http://www.greaterthings.com/News/federa...

-- posted by _Boanerges_