Protestantism

» Brian Tubbs - Civil Rights - great example

I applaud you for living through that period and being on the right side. There are a lot of people, including in Independent Baptist circles, who were on the wrong side - and live in regret today because of it.

As for Dr. King, I agree that the movement would've happened whether he led it or not. Just as the American Revolution would have happened without George Washington. But these men helped shape those events they way they DID happen. And they deserve credit for that.

In the case of the Revolution, I frankly don't think the Americans would've won without Washington at the helm. And I really mean that. We would've lost the war and probably (like Canada) would've been granted independence gradually over time. This doesn't take anything away from Joseph Plumb Martin. But you need leadership. An army needs a good general to be successful.

p.s. Of course, it needs privates too. I'm thinking of Oz's army. What did they have? 27 generals and 1 private.