Protestantism

» redback - Subterfuge

In response to Subterfuge posted by Migisi:

All this reminds me of an old Sunday School song:

""I want to be more than a Sunday-go-to-meeting Christian!
I want religion that thrills me thru and thru!
dah dah dah (forgot the lines)"

Yep, there are rights and responsibilities. The trouble is IMO it risks exponential individual compromises if we stay with a group who make group compromises to cater for the group.

But those that church-hop seem to me to be looking for the best label from an ill-fitting bunch of labels. Sometimes the prudent thing may be to await a new President...or pastor...for those who solely rely on profound beliefs to steer them right. The pastor may await your leaving to get the group back on track and the cookie crumbles..to coin a phrase.

-- posted by redback

» pink101 - Subterfuge

In response to Subterfuge posted by redback:
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To coin a phrase.
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:~)

-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - Subterfuge

In response to Subterfuge posted by redback:
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I want religion that thrills me thru and thru!
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Indeed, I think this line reflects what a lot of people today want - stimulation, excitement, thrills, chills, and spills. It's all about "I want.." and "me, me, me".
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But those that church-hop seem to me to be looking for the best label from an ill-fitting bunch of labels.
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What if they never find the perfect fit? (rhetorical)
Reminds me of shoe shopping.
Both feet belong to one body.
The left shoe fits just right,
but the right shoe is too tight.
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The pastor may await your leaving to get the group back on track...
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After leaving, they can become ordained ministers themselves and start their own church, and it'll be all about them. It's easy ... http://home.wi.rr.com/pcdr/ordain.html

-- posted by Migisi

» redback - Subterfuge

In response to Subterfuge posted by Migisi:

Not the shoe shopping analogy so much for me. Reminds me of doctor-shopping. You probably experience it there too I guess seeing most such things are imported from the USA.

In doctor-shopping, the 'patient' visits many doctors to collect numerous prescriptions to abuse the drugs, will finally find some doctor willing to write an 'unfit' certificate of some kind so the 'patient' can exploit the boss, welfare, compo etc. Globally, both doctor and patient become complicit in the 'fraud' due to reckless indifference.

While church fellowship does evoke the warm and fuzzy, there are other streams of thought as exampled these pages. Tis safer to stick to the warm and fuzzy?

BUT you DID make me think of the shoes I need for my "platypus" feet. And the link reminded me of my brother who is becoming a civil marriage celebrant and wanted his first job to be performing the wedding ceremony for...his exwife.

-- posted by redback

» pink101 - Subterfuge

In response to Subterfuge posted by redback:
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I might know one of those doctor shoppers.
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» Migisi - Subterfuge

In response to Subterfuge posted by pink101:
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My mother was one such doctor-shopper when she got old. If one didn't tell her what she wanted to hear, she'd go to another, and another - for a second, third, fifth, eleventh opinion. Her 'illnesses' gave her excuses to avoid participating in life. Yes, her drug cabinet was full. She was a script addict... uppers to rise in the morning, downers for bed, and mood elevators in between. Quite sad, really. She destroyed her health taking all those drugs for so many years. Now me? I have to be on death's door before I'll see a doctor.

-- posted by Migisi

» Migisi - Subterfuge

In response to Subterfuge posted by redback:
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Tis safer to stick to the warm and fuzzy?
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Only if the warm and fuzzy sticks too. Sooner or later, it gets to be hot and hairy.
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And the link reminded me of my brother who is becoming a civil marriage celebrant and wanted his first job to be performing the wedding ceremony for...his exwife.
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Hee hee. Officiate her wedding, and that'll take care of his alimony payments, ay? How funny.

-- posted by Migisi

» pink101 - Brother Jones' Concerns

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I have just recently heard about a new "Community Church" nearby that has its arms open, pretty much, to all comers.
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It was started by a husband and wife team that has had it with churches more adherant to denominationalist rules and regulations. This one is wide open. I think the congregation includes many non-Christians as well as some pretty wild and wooly youngsters just coming of age. They've tried the bar scene and are growing out of it looking for people less used and worn out.
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I think, from what I'm hearing, this may be one of Brother Jones' Concerns that caused him to start this thread.
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By the way, where is that old side winder?
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-- posted by pink101

» redback - hot n hairy

In response to Subterfuge posted by Migisi:

The alimony's OK. No dependant kids and the ex earns more than him. But he doesn't see how bizarre his offer was even after his adult kids "suggested" it in their own 'quaint' style.

Those doctor-shoppers? An extreme example here led to an orthopaedic specialist being de-registered and all medical opinion from him being totally discredited. He'd left a full pad of signed certificates for his secretary to fill in the name...while he was overseas. Trouble is, one patient inadvertently handed in the wrong certificate to the wrong agency and...the cookie crumbled.

No-one thought the enabling actions of the patient and secretary needed sanction. We all play our part in what befalls us, methinks.

"If one didn't tell her what she wanted to hear, she'd go to another, and another - for a second, third, fifth, eleventh opinion."

The word for today is: iatragenic.

One or more doctors get suckered in...carry out more tests and feed the belief it must be serious otherwise why all the effort. The person ends up worse than when they started.

-- posted by redback

» pink101 - Iatrogenic

In response to hot n hairy posted by redback:
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Iatrogenic; * adjective: induced by a physician's words or therapy (used especially of a complication resulting from treatment)

-- posted by pink101