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» Migisi - Falderow Set Aside (long)

In response to Falderow Set Aside (long) posted by EvilChihuahua:
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I got the Flu at the moment.
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Sorry to hear it. I hope you feel better soon. I've been fighting a head/chest cold for a month. I get better, and then one of my grandkids gives me a germy kiss.
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The four corners of the Earth: North, South, East and West. We use the expression today even, but it doesn't mean we believe the Earth is flat.
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Good point. Yes, a biblical expression we still use. When I think of four corners, I also think of Peter's weird animal dream in Acts. Remember the sheet being let down from heaven by its four corners with the animals on it?
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Job 26:7 - "He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing."
Are you ignoring that it states right there that the Earth floats freely? The verse doesn't tell us about what the Babylonians believe, but tells us exactly what is reality: the Earth floats freely in space.
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Sorry. Got sidetracked with the north-stretching.
The author of Job is not the only ancient writer to mention the earth hanging upon nothing. One school of Greek philosophers thought that the earth was hung upon nothing. They conceived of the earth as a cylinder, suspended on nothing at the center of the sky, which was a hollow sphere surrounding the earth. So the Bible's reference to the earth hanging on nothing is not unique. There's only one reference (Job) to the earth allegedly floating freely, but look how many other verses there are which refer to the earth's "foundation" - a belief that the Earth had a foundation below it - supported by something (a concept commonly held by other cultures)...
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Job 38:4-6 - "Where were you when I laid the EARTH'S FOUNDATION? Tell me, if you understand. 5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it? 6 On what were its FOOTINGS set, or who laid its cornerstone-"
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1 Sam. 2:8 - "For the FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH are the LORD's; upon them he has set the world."
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2 Samuel 22:16 (and Psalm 18:15) - "The valleys of the sea were exposed and the FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH laid bare at the rebuke of the LORD, at the blast of breath from his nostrils."
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Psalm 82:5 "They know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH are shaken.
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Psalm 102:25
In the beginning you laid the FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH, and the heavens are the work of your hands.
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Psalm 104:5 - "He set the EARTH ON ITS FOUNDATIONS; it can never be moved."
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Proverbs 3:19 - "By wisdom the LORD laid the EARTH'S FOUNDATIONS, by understanding he set the heavens in place;.."
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Proverbs 8:29 - "...when he gave the sea its boundary so the waters would not overstep his command, and when he marked out the FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH."
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Isaiah 48:13 - "My own hand laid the FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH, and my right hand spread out the heavens; when I summon them, they all stand up together."
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Isaiah 51:13 - "...that you forget the LORD your Maker, who stretched out the heavens and laid the FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH,..."
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Isaiah 51:16 - "...I who set the heavens in place, who laid the FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH,..."
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Jeremiah 31:37 - "This is what the LORD says: "Only if the heavens above can be measured and the FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH BELOW below be searched out..."
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Amos 9:6 - "...he who builds his lofty palace in the heavens and sets its FOUNDATION ON THE EARTH, who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out over the face of the land- the LORD is his name."
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Zechariah 12:1 -"...The LORD, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH,..."
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Hebrews 1:10 - "He also says, "In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH, and the heavens are the work of your hands.
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There were fossils of Behemoth found?
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Yes, it goes under the clssification Titanosaur.
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You do know that 'behemoth' is often used in a general way to mean something extremely large, right? Titanosaur was sure a behemoth, but it wasn't ~the~ Behemoth. The Bible description of Behemoth doesn't match the archaeological sauropod description. The teeth of sauropods (like Titanosaur) were spatulate and gracile, (peg-like) - neither facilitated chewing grass "like an ox". It needed molars to do that. Their jaws moved up and down, not in a circular motion like an ox. And they were extinct WAY before Man and the Bible.
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Lots of other problems, but I'll end with NIV references to Behemoth being "under the lotus plants" (Egyptian lily) and "hidden among the reeds in the marsh" (21). Something as huge as a giant Titanosaur couldn't be hidden by reeds, or lie concealed under lilies (22). The KJV reads that he was 'in the covert (hiding place) of the reed, and fens." Again, a creature ~that~ large couldn't have been hidden in the reeds or in the shallow water of a fen. In my online bible footnotes, it reads: "Job 40:15 Possibly the hippopotamus or the elephant." Most resources I've read agree with that. No question Hippos are behemoths. Imagine the largest hippo documented at 4,500 kg (10,000 lb) and about 5 meters (16 ft) long. Most average 3.5 meters (11 ft) long, and weigh from 1,500 to 3,200 kilograms (3,300 to 7,000 lb). Their diet is wild grass. They inhabit areas of deep water with adjacent reed beds, and they're found in African rivers, including the Nile and the Mara. They would've been a common sight in the Nile region in Biblical times.
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I'll get back to the rest of your post another times. It's late here. Have a good day.

-- posted by Migisi