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The Reality of Jesus

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54.   Jun 5, 2007 6:00 AM

» pink101 - Reality of Jesus

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When I was a child, we sang this song in church.
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http://www.cgmusic.com/cghymnal/others/h...
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The singing of this song in the congregation with people looking around and catching each other's eyes put a sense of happy satisfaction in our minds. It was an extremely popular song in Fundamentalist churches during the 1930s and 40s. It's difficult to get an understanding of the strength singing has to raise the consciousness of the individual unless one has been there. The music at the above site doesn't do any justice to the sense one has in a group singing the song. The song leader would get the congregation to hold on to the word, lives, as the emotional build up reached a peak.
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I must say that the singing of the song itself built belief in the mind of anyone in the group.
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It was all about the REALITY of Jesus.
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Have you ever seen a bumper sticker proclaiming, He Lives! ?
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-- posted by pink101


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55.   Jun 5, 2007 8:45 AM

» Migisi - Reality of Jesus

In response to Reality of Jesus posted by pink101:


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"He lives" in the believer's mind - in the believer's concept of reality.

-- posted by Migisi


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56.   Jun 6, 2007 5:31 AM

» pink101 - Reality of Jesus

In response to Reality of Jesus posted by Migisi:


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He lives in your heart.
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That's the message of that song.
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And, with that message, the believer is not forced to accept some church doctrine.
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It's a personal relationship.
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57.   Jun 6, 2007 7:32 AM

» Migisi - Reality of Jesus

In response to Reality of Jesus posted by pink101:
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He lives in your heart.
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Okay. The memory of my dear dead mother lives in my heart (mind) too.
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It's a personal relationship.
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Can one actually have a personal relationship with someone they never knew? Say, with Aristotle, George Washington, Moses? I suppose one could think he has a personal relationship with the dead - if he believes he can communicate with ghosts, and they communicate back.

-- posted by Migisi


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58.   Jun 6, 2007 7:37 AM

» pink101 - Reality of Jesus


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In the final analysis, isn't it all in our mind? Even our own identity?
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:~)
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-- posted by pink101


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59.   Jun 6, 2007 7:48 AM

» Migisi - Reality of Jesus

In response to Reality of Jesus posted by pink101:


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Absolutely! I agree.

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60.   Jun 6, 2007 7:50 AM

» Feature Writer Brian Tubbs - Relating with the Dead

In response to Reality of Jesus posted by Migisi:


Can one actually have a personal relationship with someone they never knew? Say, with Aristotle, George Washington, Moses?

Didn't Hillary Clinton say she communed with Eleanor Roosevelt?

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61.   Jun 6, 2007 7:52 AM

» Feature Writer Brian Tubbs - Final Analysis

In response to Reality of Jesus posted by pink101:


In the final analysis, isn't it all in our mind? Even our own identity?

Yes and No. Yes, insofar that a person's perception - if fixed in his or her mind - becomes that person's effective reality. Jesus himself said: "As a man thinks in his heart, so is he." So, in that sense, YES.

But....you cannot reduce reality itself to merely the imagination. There IS external, objective reality. There IS external truth.

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62.   Jun 6, 2007 11:18 AM

» Migisi - Relating with the Dead

In response to Relating with the Dead posted by BrianTubbs:


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Didn't Hillary Clinton say she communed with Eleanor Roosevelt?
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Yes she did. And she became a laughing stock for it. Rightly so.

-- posted by Migisi


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63.   Jun 6, 2007 1:27 PM

» pink101 - Final Analysis

In response to Final Analysis posted by BrianTubbs:
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These are very difficult issues to discuss.
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In order to do them justice, we would have to get to a secluded place away from any distraction where we could spend hours being exposed to the best thinkers on the subjects involved in a highly organized fashion. Then we would have to have a professional moderator lead us through directed discussions. The process would probably take place over a couple of weeks minimum. That's how the first serious discussions on biblical issues took place back in seventeenth century England.
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Other than that, we take our best shots. By no means do our discussions here approach such a level; but, we do get to learn about our own biases and understandings and how others think about that. We shouldn't take things too seriously. I think that is one of the main problems here. If we were face to face and someone asked us how dumb we could get, we'd be able to laugh it off. But, here, we get to think our interactions are all life and death. The issues may be; but, our discussions are only going to settle things in our own minds. None of us has stumbled on to any earth shattering discoveries that I can tell.
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By the way, a discussion about those early gatherings back in seventeenth century England would be quite interesting.
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-- posted by pink101


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