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2.   May 13, 2007 7:27 AM

» pink101 - Christopher Hitchens Live

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Here is another good discussion panel on the subject of Truth Claims and you can watch it now:
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http://www.booktv.org/General/index.asp?...
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3.   May 14, 2007 12:05 AM

» Migisi - Stephen Prothero

In response to Stephen Prothero posted by pink101:


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Sorry I missed this thread earlier.
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Wow! Half of Americans were unable to name even one of the four gospels, or the first book of the Bible? Christians think Joan of Arc was Noah's wife? That's a hoot! Evangelicals don't fair much better in religious literacy than the average American?
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The interviewer mentions he was reading Christopher Hitchens, and he said that even those who appear educated are 'wildly ignorant' (implying this about Hitchens). You're reading Hitchen's book, right? Do you get a sense that he's ignorant?
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-- posted by Migisi

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4.   May 14, 2007 4:42 AM

» redback - Stephen Prothero

In response to Stephen Prothero posted by Migisi:


"Wow! Half of Americans were unable to name even...."

Carrying out street polls of Americans, (editing for entertainment purposes I know) creates some scary questions about just how cluey Joe Average is. Forget about Michael Moore and Candid Camera and the cruder 'Borat'. Our "Chaser" went there and did better than Jay Leno does in his street polls. Your Obama was described as evil (confused with Osama!)forget the other "well known" names, and by declaring some of the world's iconic places incl your own Mt Rushmore, were actually in Australia only a short flight from each other, they wanted to visit to check 'em all out.

Aussie scams along the same lines need far more effort to fool the people or maybe the programs would be a disastrous PR exercise so are pulled before release??

But does this equate to religious gullibility ripe for the picking or is that matters that matter really aren't showing across US Joe Average's radar? There's always someone else that can worry about that?

Who was it reckons we're all the same? Aaawwhhh!!!

-- posted by redback

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5.   May 14, 2007 5:30 AM

» pink101 - Stephen Prothero

In response to Stephen Prothero posted by Migisi:
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You're reading Hitchen's book, right?
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No, I'm not reading his book. I'm tempted. I don't like him, even so, I did watch him in another panel discussion yesterday. I think I mentioned it in another thread.
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6.   May 14, 2007 5:36 AM

» pink101 - Stephen Prothero

In response to Stephen Prothero posted by redback:
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Obfuscation seems to be part of the strategies in use by politicos for the purpose of confusing the issues of the American voter.
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Party politics is a very dirty business and no tricks are left in the bag. Does anyone remember the movie, Flamingo Road?
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041373/
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7.   May 14, 2007 7:20 PM

» Migisi - Stephen Prothero


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No, I'm not reading his book..
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Sorry, Pink. I shouldn't assume. I thought you were when you mentioned the point he made about violence (the God&Children thread).
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You say you didn't like Hitchens. Why not?
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-- posted by Migisi

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8.   May 14, 2007 7:26 PM

» Feature Writer Brian Tubbs - Good book on Truth

I recommend Truth Decay: Defending Christianity Against the Challenges of Postmodernism by Douglas Groothius. An excellent book - one I think even my liberal and secularist friends here would respect - if, that is, they would read it. happy
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9.   May 14, 2007 11:02 PM

» redback - Stephen Prothero

In response to Stephen Prothero posted by pink101:


Sorry, haven't seen the movie so the connection to the question passes me by. I'm not persuaded the Chaser's helping the 'obfuscation' you refer to as I don't think 'The Chasers War On Everything' is available in the USA. But the street polling methodology you're highlighting sure doesn't paint the USA's intelligence base in a great light.

Isn't it as simple as you guys needing to have a laugh at yourselves? We find it a healthy thing to do with whatever consequences.

-- posted by redback

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10.   May 15, 2007 5:31 AM

» pink101 - Stephen Prothero

In response to Stephen Prothero posted by Migisi:
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IYou say you didn't like Hitchens. Why not?
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Hard to say. Just some prejudice I have against the English, I guess. And, I know he is a U.S. Citizen. Maybe I don't like him for forcing me to question my own beliefs in which I had felt so comfortable.
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I do respect him.
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11.   May 15, 2007 5:32 AM

» pink101 - Stephen Prothero

In response to Stephen Prothero posted by redback:
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The movie points up--dramatically--how corruption controls politics.
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