Protestantism

» pink101 - Yah, Sure, If

In response to Instinct posted by paper_turtle:
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Yah, sure, if.
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But, what we actually know is that we only know that to which we are exposed and that we don't know that to which we have not been exposed.
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Once we begin at this starting line, we can grow based on a solid foundation.
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Other than that, magic enters the picture.
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That may be discomforting; but, it is basic to reality.
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-- posted by pink101

» paper_turtle - Yah, Sure, If

In response to Yah, Sure, If posted by pink101:

Is ESP magic? How about out-of body experiences (e.g., when a person "sees" his/her own body, and medical peopel working on it?

Are there only two catefgories--reality and magic?

peace and love,
Paper Turtle

-- posted by paper_turtle

» pink101 - Mind Readers

In response to Yah, Sure, If posted by paper_turtle:
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Where did you get the information that makes you think you might be correct in your questions?
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Is ESP magic?
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Some people have gathered exceptional abilities of observation--spatial relationship skills.
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Do you know people who read minds?
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:)
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In fact, you are pretty good at putting 2 and 2 together. You learned that skill in what has been exposed to you. I think it's called discernment.
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-- posted by pink101

» paper_turtle - Yah, Sure, If

In response to Yah, Sure, If posted by pink101:

My maternal grandmother, the one I frequently mention, was a "folk doctor," who healed with herbs. She had a special gift for knowing which herbs would work. But more than that, when someone would come to get her, having driven several miles in a horse-drawn buggy, she knew what the patient needed, and how crucial it was to hurry, and whether or not the patient was still alive. She just knew. She wasn't 100% right, but often enough to trust what her intuition told her.
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I've known a lot of people with psychic ability of one kind or another. They know something beyond what "ordinary" people know.
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I think dismissing something unexplainable as magic limits our ability to see outside the box.

As a post-modernist, don't you believe we create our own reality? Well, we create our reality based on what we perceive--but we only see what we *expect* to see. It has to fit in with our preconceived notions of what is right, reasonable, whatever. so if we encounter something mysterious and say its chicanery, or say there has to be a *purely* retional explanation, then we have blinded ourselves to seeing it as it is--something we don't understand.
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

-- posted by paper_turtle

» pink101 - Repeating

In response to Yah, Sure, If posted by paper_turtle:
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Let me repeat, in fact, you are pretty good at putting 2 and 2 together. You learned that skill in what has been exposed to you. I think it's called discernment.
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Some of us are better at it than others. If we exercise our ability to be discerning, I think we get better at it.
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Some people are less observant and they let obscure evidence pass them by.
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Basically, this all inures to how our culture develops us, doesn't it? So, we can think of culture being to us as water is to fish. We are the products of our culture and that gives meaning to the words, enculturate and cultivate. We bloom where we are planted.
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-- posted by pink101

» paper_turtle - Repeating

In response to Repeating posted by pink101:

Let me repeat, in fact, you are pretty good at putting 2 and 2 together. You learned that skill in what has been exposed to you. I think it's called discernment.
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Some of us are better at it than others. If we exercise our ability to be discerning, I think we get better at it.
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Thanks, Phil (blush and grin)
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But, that still doesn't answer how my grandmother "knew" what she knew, or how a person on the verge of death can see his own body while its being worked on. And, it implies closing off the possibility of discovering some other explanation.
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The thing is, our minds simply detest not knowing the answer--and will come up with anything to fill the void. But sometimes just sitting back with *not* knowing leads to real discovery.
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

-- posted by paper_turtle

» pink101 - The Bible Speaks Of...

In response to Repeating posted by paper_turtle:
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A man convinced against his will remains of the same opinion still.
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Your mind seems set. .
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It is not by chance that we use the word, culture, to describe society.
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The Bible speaks of seeds falling on different kinds of ground. If the soil is deep and rich in nutrients with a good mixture of sunshine and water--those things that are favorable to growth, the result is a plant that has a strong possibility of growing to its fullest potential. When little children are given an opportunity to be planted in deep soil that is filled with nutrients and where they are well cultivated by teachers who expose them to the light that gives them energy, they generally have a great advantage over others less fortunate.
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I'm sure your grandmother grew up in an environment that encouraged her to be whatever it was that she was. It's a wonderful life!
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It behooves us to reach out for nurishment, doesn't it? It that an instinct?
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The signs are clear.
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-- posted by pink101

» paper_turtle - The Bible Speaks Of...

In response to The Bible Speaks Of... posted by pink101:

Your mind seems set.
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So does yours.
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Back later. I have errands to run.
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

-- posted by paper_turtle

» pink101 - The Bible Speaks Of...

In response to The Bible Speaks Of... posted by paper_turtle:
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Pink's mind seems set,
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I'm sure you're correct.
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It has been set by that to which I have been exposed.
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What should I do about that?
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Time to do the laundry.
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-- posted by pink101

» paper_turtle - The Bible Speaks Of...

In response to The Bible Speaks Of... posted by pink101:

Phil wrote:
[My mind] has been set by that to which I have been exposed.
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What should I do about that?
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As a post modernist, I would have thought you would have said your mind has been set by your *choices* about that to which I have been exposed.
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What to do? Well, you could start by taking a second look at what I said, above, about not knowing, and things unexplained. LOL
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Try thinking about what would happen if you chose to perceive something differently. For example, instead of thinking about being in a rut here, think about all the new things which are posted every day. (wink)
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

-- posted by paper_turtle