Protestantism

» Brother_Jones - Item 28

In response to Item 28 posted by redback:

A lifetime ago, this 'community' aka R & S caused me stress and sleepless nights.

I do remember some about your personal story of your youth and I often wonder if you would have traded it in for just a regular bad home environment as opposed to having many fathers and many mothers. There is a singularity that you carry with all your posts and it is noticiable and seems common to those who have been in some kind of war, or lived through some hell of sorts. And you carry yours very well. I find it very difficult to even talk about mine.

i am just an oldtimer for the Lord.

-- posted by Brother_Jones

» Migisi - Item 28

In response to Item 28 posted by redback:

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bovine melena
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Ungulate merda back atcha.

-- posted by Migisi

» paper_turtle - Item 28

In response to Item 28 posted by redback:

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redback wrote
This is another topic or stream of reflection where I am at a loss to know if there is some test of whether or not I am living up to your expectations and you mine
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Not asking you to take sides, redback. I was simply agreeing what you said, and implicitly taking note of your innate good sense. My only expectation is that you will continue to be you.
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

-- posted by paper_turtle

» redback - Item 28

In response to Item 28 posted by Migisi:

"Ungulate merda back atcha."

Thanx, Migisi. I like to articulate my esetoric cogitations so will add that to my list for mixed company.

Brother-jones...maybe my posts are read at different levels here but then I've always been beyond Jeff101. I just don't keep count here AND find it hard to dissect my train of thought simply because someone puts a restricting topic heading up.

The other day, someone referred me to a 'Free Fuel' sign at the shops I never noticed. Now, I see they have in fact placed countless such signs throughout. EVERYWHERE I look. Kinda like the noisy dripping tap I hadn't heard before. Suite101 gets like that.

-- posted by redback

» Brother_Jones - Item 28

In response to Item 28 posted by redback:

Brother-jones...maybe my posts are read at different levels here but then I've always been beyond Jeff101.

Well in some ways we all have to stick to our story or some story. lol.

And your story appears to be a head-on collision with Christian culture. And in that sense you have lots of associates here who are having some difficulty trying to come up with a history of any rules and standards when Brian asks about it. We don't want to see God as Law and Order, or as a mirror to the idea that we have not always loved and lived well, and given our children room to run and roam. But the idea of God becomes the image of the ultimate Soft One if it is going to have much air time and He is the One who comes to us to do our bidding and extends us something akin to Grace of which we are not sure why He or anyone could imagine such a boundary that would separate us from each other and from comprehending why Jesus came into the world.

i am just an oldtimer for the Lord.

-- posted by Brother_Jones

» pink101 - Good Place To Start

In response to Item 28 posted by Brother_Jones:
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Those are the questions worthy of discussion.
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We often tend to jump too far ahead of ourselves with flat out statements one way or the other.
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It reminds me of the discussion on prayer and the one on how we get to be who it is we are.
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Your comments are a good place to start and are not the finish line.
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-- posted by pink101

» Brother_Jones - Good Place To Start

In response to Good Place To Start posted by pink101:

Your turn. Maybe you could lay some groundwork as to how entire cultures will be built in the future on the idea that Survival of the Fittest and the world of Evolution will give us and our children a proper perspective on ourselves. How well have you studied your Darwin? Let's get into it.

i am just an oldtimer for the Lord.

-- posted by Brother_Jones

» pink101 - It's All About Culture

In response to Good Place To Start posted by Brother_Jones:
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Well, some people appear to be here just to pass the time of day with niceties and sweetness.
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Have you guessed that I am not one of those:
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You wrote, "... collision with Christian culture. ... lots of associates ... are having some difficulty trying to come up with a history of any rules and standards ... We don't want to see God as Law and Order, or as a mirror to the idea that we have not always loved and lived well, and given our children room to run and roam. But the idea of God becomes the image of the ultimate Soft One if it is going to have much air time and He is the One who comes to us to do our bidding and extends us something akin to Grace of which we are not sure why He or anyone could imagine such a boundary that would separate us from each other and from comprehending why Jesus came into the world."
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Who can you blame that on? Anyone at all? It seems to me that everyone who wants to pick up on the moment is complicit.
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I think the question absolutely IS CULTURE. No doubts in my mind about that at all.
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Our culture, if you like it or not, is heavily developed from the Holy Bible. You can scream and holler that the Bible is a fairy tale and or all about a god who has a blood thirst for killing sucklings; but, that is where our culture is derived for a very large part. Another source is the heritage we get from ancient Greece.
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If anyone is going to be honest in such a discussion, they MUST accept the Bible as a foundation and they MUST also accept the ancient Greeks as well.
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There is a blend and we call it Western Civilization.
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That's the starting gate.
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But, watch, someone will jump in--sooner or later--and want to pick up on some point of contention as though it were the beginning of reason.
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Not.
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Or maybe their gentility has been too roughly assaulted?
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That's an ABC
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-- posted by pink101

» Brother_Jones - Good Place To Start

In response to Good Place To Start posted by pink101:

If anyone is going to be honest in such a discussion, they MUST accept the Bible as a foundation and they MUST also accept the ancient Greeks as well.

Maybe as the starting point, but it seems like some folk here want to attempt to move beyond ancient script and religion and be sort of 'born again' Darwinists. And I am in agreement that they might have something worth the trouble to share. What does it mean when a person rejects the idea that they are created in the image of God? Or that they were created for some godly purpose? Does it mean to the average folk that all law and all morphing of our physical makeup is without any boundaries. We might be free to have our way with the weak, as long as we can logically explain that we believe that our species is important enough to save just like the Rainforest. When we get to Mars I think that there would be nobody there that would want to kill anybody for their unusual habits or when when they tried to start a church. Well maybe a couple of people. But they should be the ones who don't get to go to Mars, right? We should pick our star explorers from those who truly know their Darwin and they should have to take some sort of test or exam which obligates them to behave themselves in Space. Then we can remind them from time to time that they promised.

i am just an oldtimer for the Lord.

-- posted by Brother_Jones

» HeadZenCards - It's All About Culture

In response to It's All About Culture posted by pink101:

This thread is all about avoiding the other threads.

There are some among us who like to restate and pick and choose what has recently happened.

And God bless them (not like he blessed the Amalek children): That is their right.

Just seems a bit anal.

I like pie.

-- posted by HeadZenCards