Protestantism

» pink101 - ugh

In response to ugh posted by Twice__Pardoned:
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You?
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:)

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» pink101 - ugh

In response to ugh posted by Twice__Pardoned:
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Any guesses to who the retarded kid is?
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You?
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:)
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You gotta laugh at that one, Stephen.
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» HeadZenCards - Anti-God Thread

In response to ugh posted by Twice__Pardoned:

Why are you writing on the Anti-God thread, then, unless you have the same doubt that we have?

I would think you would want to post on the Pro-God thread.

There is no hope in Christianity, IMHO. Like all religious systems, it sucks the life and money out of its adherents while their prayers go unanswered and they die just like everyone else.

They are expecting heaven, willing to be a slave in heaven, having the lust for heaven that strips their human life of joy, when heaven was all around them here on Earth, and they spent their one and only life rejecting it.

-- posted by HeadZenCards

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» Migisi - This whole cannibalism thing is SO strange.

In response to This whole cannibalism thing is SO strange. posted by _Boanerges_:

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I know the God-man doctrine. Would you care to answer my questions?
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Which of Jesus' ideas should we take literally and which shouldn't we? Who decides this?
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How did his remaining disciples decide when and when not to take Jesus seriously?

-- posted by Migisi

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» Migisi - ugh

In response to ugh posted by Twice__Pardoned:

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but I can not hardly stand talking to people that willing choose to defend immorality and go so far as to encourage people to endulge in it.
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Me either.

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» HeadZenCards - Ignoring Jesus

In response to ugh posted by Migisi:

From www.godisimaginary.com :

Jesus made a number of very clear statements about money and wealth in the Bible. For example:

Matthew 6:19

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Luke 14:33

Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.

Matthew 6:24

No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money.

Matthew 19:21-24

Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Matthew 19:28-29

Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.

Luke 9:23-25

Then he said to them all: "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will save it. What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, and yet lose or forfeit his very self?

Matt 13: 22

The one who received the seed that fell among the thorns is the man who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke it, making it unfruitful.

Hebrews 13:5

Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you."

Phil 2:3

Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

Acts 2:44-45

All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.

The message is clear.

If you want to follow Jesus, you need to "sell your possessions and give to the poor."

It is a very simple message, and easy to do.

Have you done it?

The fact that you are reading this page would indicate that you have not.

Chances are you own a computer, pay for an Internet connection every month, live in a home or apartment, have a car, etc.

In other words, you live a life at a level of wealth unimaginable in Jesus' time.

Meanwhile, billions of people on the planet live in startling, abject poverty.

Why don't you sell everything and follow Jesus, as he requests in the Bible?

The reason is simple: Jesus and God are imaginary, and you know it.

If Jesus were real, you would do what he says.

-- posted by HeadZenCards

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» _Boanerges_ - This whole cannibalism thing is SO strange.

In response to This whole cannibalism thing is SO strange. posted by Migisi:

Which of Jesus' ideas should we take literally and which shouldn't we? Who decides this?

Well.. I dontthink its too hard to understand.. afterall, the verse I just gave (prior message) showed clearly that what Jesus said, was literal!....

How did his remaining disciples decide when and when not to take Jesus seriously?

As with the verses we are dealing with, I dont think they had any problem figuring it out.. as I said in my previous message, they figured it out, eventually..... The same would apply to you too, I believe.. Jesus said: I AM the BREAD of life.... That is what He meant by eating his body.. How do we know that for sure? Because, the verse says so - clearly...

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-- posted by _Boanerges_

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» Migisi - Against Jewish law

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John 6:53 - Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him."
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When the Jews heard this from Jesus, it must've been the last straw.
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GOD SAID:
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Genesis 9:4 - But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
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Leviticus 3:17 - 'This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live: You must not eat any fat or any blood.' "
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Leviticus 6:30 - But any sin offering whose blood is brought into the Tent of Meeting to make atonement in the Holy Place must not be eaten; it must be burned.
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Leviticus 7:27 - If anyone eats blood, that person must be cut off from his people.' "
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Leviticus 17:10 - " 'Any Israelite or any alien living among them who eats any blood-I will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from his people.
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Leviticus 17:12 - Therefore I say to the Israelites, "None of you may eat blood, nor may an alien living among you eat blood."
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Leviticus 19:26 - " 'Do not eat any meat with the blood still in it. " 'Do not practice divination or sorcery.

-- posted by Migisi

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» HeadZenCards - Against Jewish law

In response to Against Jewish law posted by Migisi:

Matt. 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Obviously, Jesus fulfilled everything. This means his thousand year reign on earth has been over for about a thousand years. What is a True Believer in the Blood to do?

-- posted by HeadZenCards

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» HeadZenCards - A Simple Experiment

In response to Against Jewish law posted by HeadZenCards:

From www.godisimaginary.com:

If you are a Christian who believes in the power of prayer, here is a very simple experiment that will show you something very interesting about your faith.

Take a coin out of your pocket. Now pray sincerely to Ra:

Dear Ra, almighty sun god, I am going to flip this ordinary coin 50 times, and I am asking you to cause it to land heads-side-up all 50 times. In Ra's name I pray, Amen.

Now flip the coin. Chances are that you won't get past the fifth or sixth flip and the coin will land tails.

What does this mean? Most people would look at this data and conclude that Ra is imaginary. We prayed to Ra, and Ra did nothing. We can prove that Ra is imaginary (at least in the sense of prayer-answering ability) by using statistical analysis.

If we flip the coin thousands of times, praying to Ra each time, we will find that the coin lands heads or tails in exact correlation with the normal laws of probability. Ra has absolutely no effect on the coin no matter how much we pray. Even if we find a thousand of Ra's most faithful believers and ask them to do the praying/flipping, the results will be the same. Therefore, as rational people, we conclude that Ra is imaginary.

We look at Ra in the same way that we look at Leprechauns, Mermaids, Santa and so on. We know that people who believe in Ra are delusional.

Now I want you to try the experiment again, but this time I want you to pray to Jesus Christ instead of Ra. Pray sincerely to Jesus like this:

Dear Jesus, I know that you exist and I know that you hear and answer prayers as you promise in the Bible. I am going to flip this ordinary coin 50 times, and I am asking you to cause it to land heads-side-up all 50 times. In Jesus' name I pray, Amen.

Now flip the coin. Once again, after the fifth or sixth flip, the coin will land tails.

If we flip the coin thousands of times, praying to Jesus each time, we will find that the coin lands heads or tails in exact correlation with the normal laws of probability. It is not like there are two laws of probability -- one for Christians who pray and the other for non-Christians. There is only one law of probability because prayers have zero effect. Jesus has no effect on our planet no matter how much we pray. We can prove that conclusively using statistical analysis.

If you believe in God, watch what is happening inside your mind right now. The data is absolutely identical in both experiments. With Ra you looked at the data rationally and concluded that Ra is imaginary.

But with Jesus... something else will happen. In your mind, you are already coming up with a thousand rationalizations to explain why Jesus did not answer your prayers:

* It is not his will
* He doesn't have time
* I didn't pray the right way
* I am not worthy
* I do not have enough faith
* I cannot test the Lord like this
* It is not part of Jesus' plan for me
* And on and on and on...

One rationalization that you may find yourself developing is particularly interesting. You may say to yourself: "Well, of course Jesus doesn't answer me when I pray about a coin toss, because it is too trivial."

Where did this rationalization come from? If you read what Jesus says about prayer in the Bible, Jesus does not ever say, "don't pray to me about coin tosses." Jesus clearly says he will answer your prayers, and he puts no boundaries on what you may pray for. You invented this rationalization out of thin air.

You are an expert at creating rationalizations for Jesus. The reason you are an expert is because Jesus does not answer any of your prayers. The reason why Jesus does not answer any of your prayers is because Jesus and God are imaginary.

-- posted by HeadZenCards

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