Protestantism

» Twice__Pardoned - Winners and Losers

In response to Winners and Losers posted by HeadZenCards:

How much of the world's hatred do you think is a direct result of religion this day and age?

-- posted by Twice__Pardoned

» Migisi - Standard of Success

In response to Standard of Success posted by pink101:

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Got any good ideas for getting the congregation to be a little more sacrificial in their giving?
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Hype up the guilt and fear. That always worked with the Jews and Catholics. Tee hee.

-- posted by Migisi

» Migisi - Standard of Success

In response to Standard of Success posted by Twice__Pardoned:

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Jesus actually says in scripture that Men will reject him because of us.
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I think you may have that backwards.

Matt 10:22, Mark 13:13, Luke 21:17 - All men will hate you because of me...

Matt 24:9 - ... and you will be hated by all nations because of me.
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But then John says (7:7) - The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify that what it does is evil.
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And then in John 15:18 - If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.
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Either way - you're hated because of Jesus, Jesus is hated because of you... it's a set up for a persecution complex, IMO.

-- posted by Migisi

» paper_turtle - Standard of Success

In response to Standard of Success posted by Migisi:

Look at how MLK and Gandhi were hated. They rocked the boat, big time, and people find this intolerable.
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Verses such as the ones you quoted bother me, because they are often used to justify obnoxious, hateful behavior. Someone will beat you over the head with the Bible, and when you--understandably--react, they think their tactics have been validated.
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

-- posted by paper_turtle

» Brian Tubbs - Side note to Oliver

In response to Standard of Success posted by paper_turtle:

Paper Turtle mentions MLK and Gandhi. Weren't they motivated by...how did you put it?..."religious nonsense"?

» Migisi - Standard of Success

In response to Standard of Success posted by paper_turtle:

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...and when you--understandably--react, they think their tactics have been validated.
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Exactly. Jesus said they'd be hated. Never mind their obnoxious approach.
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I get the sense that some think - Jesus was hated, so if I'm hated, I'll be just like Jesus. And if I'm not hated, I'm failing in the Great Commission.

Go figure.

-- posted by Migisi

» HeadZenCards - Side note to Oliver

Human beings have the power to help ideas evolve, even silly ones like pie-in-the-sky-when-you-die and demand for worship of voyeuristic gods who want their followers to kill children.

-- posted by HeadZenCards

» Brian Tubbs - Obnoxious Christians

In response to Standard of Success posted by Migisi:

Migisi and PT, I missed this exchange between the two of you. I agree completely. There ARE some obnoxious Christians out there that understandably infuriate and provoke others through their badgering - and then they retreat back into some martyrdom posture. I've seen it a lot.

» HeadZenCards - Side note to Oliver

In response to Side note to Oliver posted by HeadZenCards:

Great human beings are great human beings IN SPITE of their religious upbring, not BECAUSE of it.

-- posted by HeadZenCards

» Brian Tubbs - Side note to Oliver

In response to Side note to Oliver posted by HeadZenCards:

Well, you've made some progress. At least you're willing to admit that having strong religious convictions doesn't DISQUALIFY someone from the Great Human Being club.