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© Brian Tubbs

God and Suffering

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159.   May 3, 2007 6:19 AM

» pink101 - Respect For Progressives

In response to Respect For Progressives posted by Brother_Jones:
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This last post of his, is an almost perfect example of what I mean when I say RCoot preaches to the choir. It's bound to get some support from the faithful. In the ad business, we would have said he was running a flag up the pole to see if anyone would salute it.
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-- posted by pink101


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160.   May 3, 2007 6:42 AM

» Brother_Jones - Respect For Progressives

In response to Respect For Progressives posted by pink101:


when I say RCoot

I am going to ask a favor of you. Quit messing with my online name. The other day you published my last name and I still don't know why you did that or that you seem to want to deal on such in such bully playground fashion. But before you go over the line again and start publishing last names without permission or encouragement, I am asking you to stop.

I realize that I have some favorite ways of addressing members here, and I will also try to be considerate of how I do that.

i am just an oldtimer for the Lord.

-- posted by Brother_Jones


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161.   May 3, 2007 6:48 AM

» paper_turtle - Respect For Progressives

In response to Respect For Progressives posted by Brother_Jones:


I asked:
What do you mean by worship? What does Jesus = God imply in terms of how a liberal OR non-liberal lives his/her life?
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Brother Jones responded:
My experience teaches me that folks like you tend to believe that Jesus was not God, and therefore spend most of your life calling attention to the beautiful things in nature . . . .

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First of all you didn't answer my questions. They were not intended as rhetorical, I want to know.
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Secondly, you are (once again) making assumptions which have no basis in fact. Nature is a manifestation of God's love and creative genius. I believe I worship God whenever I stop to consider something beautiful he has created.

rather than the beautiful sacrifice made on the Cross

NONE of us, regardless of his/her beliefs, spends all his/her time talking/thinking about Jesus' crucifixion/resurrection. That's a faulty assumption to make, and you know it.
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So you think prayer, worship, study, and acts of love are pretty high on the agenda of the Liberals here? Maybe so. But I haven't heard from that side concerning those things lately.
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I was speaking of liberals in general, but it doesn't much matter. I wouldn't presume to know what others here do when they are not participating in discussions here. If you haven't heard any one discussing his/her life of the spirit, why not ask, rather than jumping to conclusions?
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'Who do Liberals pray to?' is considered bad form. Liberals are pretty dogone touchy. Have you noticed?
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"Who do Librals pray to" is (to my mind) an offenseive question. It implies that the asker of the question has one view of God, one definition of God, and maybe even one definition of what constitutes proper prayer--and that anyone who might have a differing view doesn't know God at all. That, to me, sounds judgmental.
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it doesn't seem to bother you in the slightest when a friend decides that everything they once believed about Jesus is simply fairy tale material. But I am not like you.
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Its not my job to control what anyone else believes. Its not my job to determine what anyone else OUGHT to believe. I don't believe it is the job of any believer to determine those things for another. Further, its been my experienct that telling someone else their beliefs are wrong doesn't accomplish anything. I can state my disagreement with them, if I choose--but I've learned the wisdom of picking my battles.
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

-- posted by paper_turtle


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162.   May 3, 2007 6:50 AM

» pink101 - Respect For Old Coots

In response to Respect For Progressives posted by Brother_Jones:
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I was just addressing you in a new way. It seems like the idea of Old Timer calls up the idea of an Old Coot. I was wondering if you pronounce u in RCut as though it were a double o, that is like the oo sound in Old Coot.
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But, okay, I've had my fun and you have a hard time taking a joke. So, I won't refer to you as our coot. Seems like you called me a funny duck once, and I guess that I thought a coot was like a duck of some sort.
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You doesn't has to call me Johnson; but, that's my name.
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:)
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-- posted by pink101


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163.   May 3, 2007 6:54 AM

» pink101 - Respect For The Suffering

In response to Respect For Progressives posted by paper_turtle:
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Liberals are pretty dogone touchy. Have you noticed?
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Liberals are touchy? What about old coots?
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I know, I know, I'm sick. I just can't help myself. My dear old grandmother taught me to be a tease more than sixty years ago.
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God rest her ever loving soul. I'm sure you would have like her--almost everyone did.
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-- posted by pink101


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164.   May 3, 2007 7:08 AM

» Brother_Jones - Respect For Progressives

In response to Respect For Progressives posted by paper_turtle:


Its not my job to control what anyone else believes.

Here we go again. Conservatives like me are linked to mind control. lol. I might try to answer your question about my ideas of worship if I thought you paid any attention to my answers.

I can state my disagreement with them, if I choose--but I've learned the wisdom of picking my battles.

This is not a bridge club site or tea room. This is Mind and Soul---Protestant Site. What issues are important to you? Apparently not life, death, resurrection of Jesus Christ, and the Second Coming? Or whether Jesus is God. Not worth your time anyway.

Then what would be a battle issue for you? I've already admitted some fault in your main issue that you raise over and over and over and over, that Christians shouldn't judge one another.

How many times are you going to go back to that?

i am just an oldtimer for the Lord.

-- posted by Brother_Jones


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165.   May 3, 2007 7:21 AM

» Migisi - A Compendium

In response to A Compendium posted by pink101:
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Where do you find these verses? I can't believe you search the Bible for them. You must have a compendium of them.
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There really not hard to find, Pink. The OT is full of stories like it.

-- posted by Migisi


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166.   May 3, 2007 7:23 AM

» Migisi - Brian's Screed

In response to Brian's Screed posted by HeadZenCards:
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I hereby declare you redeemed...
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Thank you so much. You're a good god, Ollie. happy

-- posted by Migisi


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167.   May 3, 2007 7:26 AM

» paper_turtle - Respect For Progressives

In response to Respect For Progressives posted by Brother_Jones:


your main issue that you raise over and over and over and over, that Christians shouldn't judge one another.
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How many times are you going to go back to that?

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As many times as I perceive one Christian judging another. And as many times as *you* repeat *your* standard argument argument over and over and over again.
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Although it might not have been clear to you, my intent was respectful, friend to friend. It doesn't feel as if you responded with the same tone.
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Just something to think about.
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BTW I've never played Bridge. Just the idea bores me silly. Same thing with having tea in a tea room. ;-)
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

-- posted by paper_turtle


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168.   May 3, 2007 7:45 AM

» paper_turtle - Fully persuaded

In response to Respect For Progressives posted by Brother_Jones:


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Romans 14:1-10 (NKJV)
The Law of Liberty

Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. Who are you to judge another's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.
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For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord's. For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother?

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You must work out your own salvation with awe and reverence; for it is God who works in you, inspiring both the will and deed, for his own chosen purpose. (Php 2:12-13)
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I trust God is at work--in me and in everyone else. I leave it up to him, to his wisdom, to his timetable, in his way.
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

-- posted by paper_turtle


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