Protestantism

» pink101 - The Suspension

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Personally, I think Imus is a jerk; but, something stinks in this suspension.
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Sure! They, whoever "they" are, got him dead to rights. He said something that wasn't allowed to come from the mouth of a middle aged white man. So, his sponsors have caved in for a suspension with the promise of a changed program format in the future.
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I doubt things are what they appear to be on the surface. I'd check a little deeper. For example, one of the most competitive and controlling industries in the world is charities. And, Imus, runs a highly successful charity outside the purview of the Mother of All Charities. Think about it. When was the last time your job was threatened?
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-- posted by pink101

» paper_turtle - The Suspension

In response to The Suspension posted by pink101:

I saw the headline about this on my home page when I logged in this morning. Other than that, though, I'm totally out of the loop on this one. My one and only exposure to Imus convinced me I didn't want to hear any more--it seemed to me as id he was constantly saying something that shouldn't come from the mouth of any reasonable person. But that's just me.
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IMHO those who inappropriately spout off at the mouth in the public arena do so deliberately. They may have to apologize. They may be sanctioned in some way. Those things don't really bother them 'cause they've also gotten their message out there.
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

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» Migisi - The Suspension

In response to The Suspension posted by paper_turtle:

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I never cared much for Imus either. I think his show is a snore. Two weeks suspension for his nasty remark isn't punishment for him... it's vacation time. Seems these talk hosts have to do the 'shock jock' thing every so often to test/boost ratings. The publicity mileage Imus is getting for this is amazing. If anyone didn't know who he was before, they'll know him now, ay?

-- posted by Migisi

» pink101 - I Guess

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I guess it is understandable that individuals would be so upset with someone for some statement they made; but, maybe that shuts down any possibility of improved relationships among people.
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Undoubtedly, Imus provides us with some of the baser objectionables television has to offer. In that sense, maybe he could be seen as giving us us balance to something at the other end of the spectrum.
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In any event, do we really want to be in the censorship business? For example, aren't the words Imus used popular words with some entertainment people? What will we do about them?
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - I Guess

In response to I Guess posted by pink101:
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... In that sense, maybe he could be seen as giving us us balance to something at the other end of the spectrum.
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What 'other' end of the spectrum do you mean?
IMO, the Imus show offers nothing more than gruff ignorant mumblings of a cantakerous ol' has-been. Take his name-calling trademark away, and what's he got left to peddle?
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In any event, do we really want to be in the censorship business? For example, aren't the words Imus used popular words with some entertainment people? What will we do about them?
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Popular words? I haven't heard the denigrating description 'nappy-headed' since the 50s. Calling women athletes 'hoes' (whores)... well, his misogyny is obvious - and a turn off to women listeners (if he ever had any). As to censorship, Imus, Howard Stern, and their ilk can spout off all they want. But they ~will~ pay a penalty of some sort for propagating hate. What goes around...
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Can you tell I don't like Imus?

-- posted by Migisi

» paper_turtle - I Guess

In response to I Guess posted by pink101:

Phil wrote:
In any event, do we really want to be in the censorship business? For example, aren't the words Imus used popular words with some entertainment people? What will we do about them?
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The words he used *shouldn't* be popular with anyone.
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I think there's a huge difference between censorship and asking people to speak (behave) responsibly. I don't think freedom of speech necessarily means we have the right to say hateful, inflammatory things--especially over public media where young children might hear them and think its cool.
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IMHO a *reasonable* person knows that calling someone "a nappy-headed ho" is disrespectful (to day the least). Not to mention that it reflects badly on the person who said it.
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I just don't understand why people like that get airtime in the first place. Nor do I understand why anyone would want to listen to (what I see as) such garbage day after day. Why pollute your mind and spirit that way?
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

-- posted by paper_turtle

» Brian Tubbs - My take

I've never listened to IMUS. I'm not a fan, so I have no stake in this. But, it seems that racism or insensitivity to minorities and/or women has become the new "unforgivable sin" in public society. Rudy Giuliani, for example, has had three wives and has admitted to past adultery - and, yet, he's the apparent frontrunner for the GOP nomination. But, if he were to be taped making a racially charged comment or a chauvinistic comment, his campaign would be OVER! Ask former Virginia Senator George Allen.
I am not defending such comments or such insensitivity, but it seems to me that there's something wrong in the balance we have in our society. Something's out of sorts.

I like what this editorialist wrote about IMUS: "It was ridiculously unacceptable, mean and insensitive. But was it unforgivable?" That's a good question to ask.

» paper_turtle - My take

In response to My take posted by BrianTubbs:

I would be among the first to advocate on behalf of forgiveness. Further, I don't believe any good cause is served by making people into pariahs.
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Still, from what I have observed, shocks jocks make their livings saying offensive things. If Imus is forgiven, is there any indication he will change his ways?
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And then again, forgiveness is really more about the person doing the forgiving than the one forgiven. I mean, if Joe Schmo holds a grudge against his neighbor, *Joe* is the one whose spirit is poisoned, not his neighbor.
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

-- posted by paper_turtle

» Brian Tubbs - Another sobering twist on all this

I encourage you all to read Michelle Malkin's take on this...

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/Miche...

She makes some very good points.