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» pink101 - Where Does That Come From?

In response to Does God give as good as he gets? posted by Brother_Jones:
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Why is it that most churched Christians have the idea of the Gospel that is so strongly promulgated by the likes of Brother Jones--the idea that human beings are, each and every last one of us, guilty of sins that put us in a position with God in which we deserve to be swept into Hell by [Him] and where we will exist through eternity with out end for ever and ever beyond death and where we will experience unspeakable pain and aguish? Where does that come from, Brother Jones? I know you "get it" out of the Bible; but, can you be specific as to exactly where you get that entire scenario? How about explaining it. Or is it better that it remains a mystery?
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Here, in Brother Jones latest post, you see the idea alluded to again: I didn't draw up any lines, Pinky. He either died for your sins or He didn't. You either worship Him or you don't. You join the rest of the modern historians of the world who regard Jesus as a rather light figure in history who was puffed by his handlers. It is your choice.
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - Where Does That Come From?

In response to Where Does That Come From? posted by pink101:
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each and every last one of us, guilty of sins that put us in a position with God in which we deserve to be swept into Hell by [Him]
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Not "every last one of us", Pink. Just you, me, and the other heathen liberals. Jones is saved, dontcha know - whether he sins or not.
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-- posted by Migisi

» pink101 - What Happened To Simon?

In response to Where Does That Come From? posted by Migisi:
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Yes, that's true. But, according to his belief, he DESERVES to be swept into Hell's eternal punishment for non-repentant sinners. Such low down rotten pieces of worthless manure that we are except that God takes pity on us and allows His son to be tortured to death as a payment fo our guilt. That tells you something about our guilt that it requires such a price. Wonder what happened to Simon? The water get too hot?
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-- posted by pink101

» Brian Tubbs - Hell

I don't see Hell in the way that Pink, Migisi, and Paper Turtle do. Obviously, since the three of you view Christianity as a man-made religion, then "Hell" is nothing more than a construct used to scare people into submission to a system or group of adherents.

This really comes down to whether you believe in God or not. If 'no,' then "Hell" will remain one of the most vile and sinister concepts you've ever been presented with. If you DO believe in God, then I think the more balanced and fair thing to do is at least retain an open mind when praying through and contemplating the nature of it and of the after-life in general.

» Brother_Jones - Where Does That Come From?

In response to Where Does That Come From? posted by pink101:

Why is it that most churched Christians have the idea of the Gospel that is so strongly promulgated by the likes of Brother Jones--the idea that human beings are, each and every last one of us, guilty of sins that put us in a position with God in which we deserve to be swept into Hell by [Him] and where we will exist through eternity with out end for ever and ever beyond death and where we will experience unspeakable pain and aguish? Where does that come from, Brother Jones?

It looks like you just penned it. You have a beef with God and His Son, so you have a tendency to rattle on like this.
Here, in Brother Jones latest post, you see the idea alluded to again: I didn't draw up any lines, Pinky. He either died for your sins or He didn't. You either worship Him or you don't. You join the rest of the modern historians of the world who regard Jesus as a rather light figure in history who was puffed by his handlers. It is your choice.

It really isn't as convoluted as you always seem to try and make it. Christ stands in the center of History, and folks either oppose Him or follow Him. You seem to have made your decision a long time ago.

i am just an oldtimer for the Lord.

-- posted by Brother_Jones

» pink101 - Hell

In response to Hell posted by BrianTubbs:
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Personally, I see Hell as a construct that is not real under any stretch of the imagination.
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Brian wrote, "I don't see Hell in the way that Pink, Migisi, and Paper Turtle do."
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So, how do you see Hell, Brian?
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Easy enough. Take your time.
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - What Happened To Simon?

In response to What Happened To Simon? posted by pink101:

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allows His son to be tortured to death as a payment fo our guilt.
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Human sacrifices to deities was hardly a new concept. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacri...
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That tells you something about our guilt that it requires such a price
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As if anyone's guilt could be assuaged by the vicarious punishment of another person? Wouldn't somebody dying for you make you feel even more guilty? Hmm, maybe that was the idea.

-- posted by Migisi

» pink101 - What Happened To Simon?

In response to What Happened To Simon? posted by Migisi:
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Scapegoating is a popular past time in courts of law.
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You must know that.
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - Hell

In response to Hell posted by BrianTubbs:
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since the three of you view Christianity as a man-made religion, then "Hell" is nothing more than a construct used to scare people into submission to a system or group of adherents.
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Can't speak for anyone else, but since I gave up the concept of Hell, I've never been more at peace - in living and dying. I wonder if you can understand that.
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One doesn't need to believe in Hell to believe in God.

-- posted by Migisi

» pink101 - Where's The Beef

In response to Where Does That Come From? posted by Brother_Jones:
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Brother Jones insults my intelligence with, You have a beef with God and His Son, so you have a tendency to rattle on like this.
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I have no beef with God or Jesus.
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But, I sure do have a beef with the likes of you and your priestly condemnation of all humanity. I say you have got one helluva nerve to put yourself in Moses' seat.
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-- posted by pink101