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» Migisi - St Patrick's Day

In response to St Patrick's Day posted by pink101:

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don't you think it's impossible to believe that the world is going to slip back into the Dark Ages as is predicted by the End Timers?
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Impossible?? Nope. TODAY will be the 'Dark Ages' compared to decades from now. I envision that future Man could blast himself back into OUR dark ages - of fear, ignorance, sickness, poverty, starvation, war, oppression, environmental contamination, and so on.
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Like our sci-fi predicts, they might blame intelligence and technology as the cause of all their suffering, and anyone making use of either would be punished. Yes, they'd be back to the simple life -- without electricty, engines, computers, medicines, and inventions.
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But I don't think anyone could ever destroy human curiosity and the burning desire to improve life again.

-- posted by Migisi

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» pink101 - Only One Way

In response to St Patrick's Day posted by Migisi:
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There is only one way that the world will be deterred from moving forward toward a better world and that is that there be a world wide conflict in which nuclear weapons are rained back and forth across the globe. In such a case, Russia, the U.S.A., Britain, France, Israel, India, Pakistan, all Korea, the entire Middle East, and some other beligerants will be turned into history. China will emerge and civilization--what's left of it--will advance.
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» Migisi - Only One Way

In response to Only One Way posted by pink101:
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You're presuming that some will survive a major world-wide nuclear event and be able to continue life on a devastated contaminated Earth - and produce children.
From all I've read, that isn't possible. All of Man will be history.

-- posted by Migisi

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» pink101 - That Won't Happen

In response to Only One Way posted by Migisi:
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You might be correct; but, I don't think so.
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I'm positively sure there are underground bunkers--self contained--able to support life far into a nuclear future.
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Nihilism has been around for a long time. It's the Adam and Eve syndrome of survival.
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What is more interesting--to me anyway--it the private research that must be underway in pursuit of the most advanced biotech science possible. I cannot imagine the leaders of such nations as the U.S.A., China, Israel, and Japan are not involved in whatever it will take for the higly privileged to survive and prevail into the distant future. That video clip--Did You Know--that you posted the other day about the growth of knowledge speaks to such an issue.
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» Migisi - That Won't Happen

In response to That Won't Happen posted by pink101:

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You might be correct; but, I don't think so.
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I hope you and I never find out which of us is right.
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I'm positively sure there are underground bunkers--self contained--able to support life far into a nuclear future.
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But for how long? You mean there might be some vaccine for radiation contamination? But what about clean food, clean water, clean air? We need natural resources to survive and prosper, no?
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Musings.

-- posted by Migisi

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» pink101 - Jimmy Stewart

In response to That Won't Happen posted by Migisi:
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The video you provided for us appears to provide us solid evidence that the future will provide us with almost unimaginable knowledge (an edge on knowing?) with which problems unknown to us in the present will be solved.
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The defeatist attitudes that are so prevalent in our day to day experiences depress us to the point that we think the future will be unbearably disastrous. I'm not saying that some of us won't be torn to pieces and thrown to the dogs--that is already happening as we write our postings. It's been going on for thousands of years and in the names of various gods to whom we have thown oursleves down in prostrate fear. What we need to do is to begin the process of talking about a different future--that is imperative.
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As a person--I assume--who has had many goals over the years and knows what it takes to create and achieve them, you absolutely recognize the importance of dreaming of a better time and a better way. That is probably part of the reason why you have come to reject some of the fairy tales you were fed in your more youthful days.
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It's a wonderful life is more than the name of a great movie in which Jimmy Stewart acted. Even so, it was a good movie. And, just to put one more out there, it's not how we will be remembered--it's what we're doing right now that counts--remembered or not. These ARE the times that try our souls.
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» Migisi - Star Gate

In response to Jimmy Stewart posted by pink101:
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The video you provided for us appears to provide us solid evidence that the future will provide us with almost unimaginable knowledge (an edge on knowing?) with which problems unknown to us in the present will be solved.
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It's how that unimaginable knowledge will be used is what's in question. We've learned from our human history that discoveries and inventions intended to be used for good purposes are used to destroy - thus creating even more problems in need of solutions.
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The defeatist attitudes that are so prevalent in our day to day experiences depress us to the point that we think the future will be unbearably disastrous.
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Is it defeatist to be a realist? Considering the current world affairs and considerable and numerous threats to Man's survival on this planet, I can only surmise that the potential for an unbearably disastrous end is quite real. Perhaps not in my lifetime, but eventually. Situations certainly haven't been improving over those thousands of years.
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As a person--I assume--who has had many goals over the years and knows what it takes to create and achieve them, you absolutely recognize the importance of dreaming of a better time and a better way.
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The goals I've dreamed up and achieved only pertain to my little sliver of ~my~ world. Visualizing and working towards any goal larger than that has always left me exhausted and disappointed. I can only hope that my efforts have a wider 'ripple affect', as Paper often refers to. But I'm not that naive to think that my ripples go out and on forever. As ripples travel further from the center, they disappear.
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That is probably part of the reason why you have come to reject some of the fairy tales you were fed in your more youthful days.
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Indeed, maturity and common sense required that I abandon childish fairy tales.
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It's a wonderful life...
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Only if one loves, and is loved. You and I are fortunate in that. It's a miserable life if love is absent.
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...it's not how we will be remembered--it's what we're doing right now that counts--remembered or not. These ARE the times that try our souls.
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I couldn't agree more.

-- posted by Migisi

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» pink101 - Star Gate

In response to Star Gate posted by Migisi:
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Hey!
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If goal setting works for you, why wouldn't it work for a small group of people, a large group, even a nation?
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First, we need to talk about it.
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The assault on community has just about destroyed our ability to set group goals. .
But, where there's life, there's hope.
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Now, where have I heard that before?
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-- posted by pink101

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» paper_turtle - Star Gate

In response to Star Gate posted by Migisi:

Migisi wrote:
I can only hope that my efforts have a wider 'ripple affect', as Paper often refers to. But I'm not that naive to think that my ripples go out and on forever. As ripples travel further from the center, they disappear.
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I refer to "ripples" because its an easily grasped image, but I realize the image has limitations. I believe when I do something which has a positive effect, I am manifesting the Good Within. The effect of my original act may fade over time BUT when another responds to my act, he or she adds "energy" from within, and he/she sends our ripples of his/her own. In this way, the energy of my ripple is renewed and strengthened. My name/identity is no longer attached to it, but its still out there.
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Native Americans refer to the Great Web of Being. I envision this as a net made of light waves. It is between and within all people and things, binding us together. What affects one, affects us all--and quantum physics seems to indicate this is true throughout the universe.
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

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» pink101 - Reflecting The Light

In response to Star Gate posted by paper_turtle:
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Your comments make me think about reflecting the light.
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The light, it is said, penetrates the darkness but the darkness percieves it not.
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Have you ever noticed that when you aim a bright beam of light away from your self in a totally dark environment that you cannot see the light except for when it strikes some object in its pathway? If you were standing to the side of the beam of light, you wouldn't see it except that there would be something like dust or a fine mist through which it was aimed. The darkness--itself--does not recognize the light. When we look out into space after sun set, we see nothing but black space with stars that are giving off light. Then, when the moon rises, we see it because it reflects the light; otherwise, there is only black space.
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Those ripples you are bringing intot he picture are like that. They go off and eventually die out unless something is there to pick up on them and to reflect their energy back.
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Truth can be compared to the light and the energy of the ripples that are sent out. If we ignore the truth, are we not like the darkness that is merely penetrated when the light shines through it?
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-- posted by pink101

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