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pink101
- A Counterfiet
In response to
I'm Not Buying That posted by
Migisi:
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A wolf ticket is a dodge--a counterfiet.
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No, I'm not saying Jesus was a devout practicing Jew; however, he may have been. How can we know?
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I am saying that he came out of a different tradition of Judaism out of Egypt.
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I don't believe the Bible is a reliable source of information about the times. I'm not going to champion any other teachings; but, I must say that the idea that the books of the Bible--Old Testatment especially--must be interpreted as literal documentation is questioned by many scholars. Of all the teachings that come out of Jewish thought, some of the most deeply respected are found in Kaballah. So, what I'm saying is that there are other ways of understanding than what comes down to us through tradition.
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From the little (and I mean a very small amount) of what I've learned of Kaballah many questions are raised regarding the veracity of literal biblicism.
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We definitely know that there were divisions in Judaism--sects. The Dead Sea Scrolls bring some of that to light. And, in juxtaposition to that we also know that the Catholic Church developed a very strong tradition of belief since its inception and other Protestant groups developed other traditions along the same and similar lines.
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So, we're in a place where we cannot claim any single understanding. Many ideas and variations converge to provide us with opportunity for a better perspective than our ancestors had available to them.
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But, more to the point. There is a thread that runs through many religions that relates to human ability to be one with the creator and it seems to be the main message Jesus brought and for which the priesthood was most upset.
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Because, as you say,
Unfortunately, the only (alleged) records we have about Jesus' life and message were written by his 'priests' (the apostles, and Paul). If we are to disregard these priests, what could we know about Jesus message? What other sources do we have besides what they wrote and preached? I don't think we
DISREGARD them so much as we use discretion to search out the deeper truths that might otherwise remain hidden. We need to practice some sort of a transcendence. sometimes, our understandings are colored by the traditions. Maybe we can ignore the traditions and look straight on through them?
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Just a thought.
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