Protestantism

» Brian Tubbs - Simon

Simon, did you save your articles that you submitted here?

» siminspain - Simon

In response to Simon posted by BrianTubbs:

Of course, I've posted them on Helium - not quite the same but the only thing I could do.

I'm focusing a bit more on the other topics I contribute to.

-- posted by siminspain

» pink101 - So, If

In response to Simon posted by siminspain:
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So, if some participant here wanted to discuss your articles in these threads, it would be their responsiblity to copy them from Helium and to post them here?
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Is that how it works?
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - Caveat

In response to Caveat posted by pink101:

So you didn't see anything objectionable about the fact that I reinserted Surtleff's article into the thread?
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~I~ see nothing objectionable. We already copy and paste quotes, articles, and/or snippets (and their sources) into the threads, adding them to our discussions.
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Suite can do what it wants with it, of course. But in a discussion thread, participants are expressing their own personal views, and aren't considered representatives of Suite.

-- posted by Migisi

» siminspain - Simon's position

In response to So, If posted by pink101:
I don't think it works in any way!!!
I assume any participant can begin any discussion using whatever article or post he likes. It is then up to Brian as Feature Writer to moderate it.
With the articles, the Feature writers answer to the section editors. The Contributing Writers answer to the Associate Editor over the whole site. This is why posts by CWs are being deleted.
The idea is that articles anywhere on Mind and Soul be:
reasoned, philosophical, interpretations of the history of these religions
with no evangelical pitch at all.
Thats the way the site is run so I am going to toe the line.

-- posted by siminspain

» pink101 - Again

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Here is Surtleff's article again:
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Pushing Your Religion In Others
By David Shurtleff
Have you seen the bumper sticker that reads, "He who dies with the most toys, wins?" The sentiment behind that sticker is laughable at one level, yet it also seems to cheapen existence; Can life really be only about getting things? An even greater tragedy comes when, in our spiritual world view, we begin to see people as things. Though God tells us symbolically that people are worth more than many sparrows, (Matt 10:31) we can at times forget their eternal value. For example, if we are not careful in our evangelical attempts to fulfill the divine commission and bring souls to Christ, we may find that we are forgetting their true value. Our actions may support a "the missionary who brings the most souls to Christ, wins," mentality. I have heard excited missionaries brag about a mission trip and the hundreds they brought to accept Christ. I yearn in such cases to ask the soul-searching question, "Yes, but where are they now?" While that question may not be relevant to a once saved always saved Christian or a believer in predestination, it is a very poignant question for those who believe that it is possible to fall from grace. It is not as if I have not experienced those feelings or faced that temptation. Years ago on my own mission there was a time when an emphasis on numbers seemed to begin to crowd out the eternal significance of the work and I would joke with my companions, "we are saved by numbers."
Enter James, that brilliant yet often overlooked apostle, who reminds us all that "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world."(James 1:27) Pure religion is not getting as many souls as possible to read some magic prayer on the back of a tract so we can quickly move on to gather more numbers for Jesus. Pure religion is to follow the significant and love filled plea that Jesus gave to a humble Peter on the shores of the sea of Tiberius, "Lovest thou me more than thesefeed my lambs"(John 21:15)
It is no accident that James is also the one who points out a related hypocrisy that can attend the number minded missionary. They are like the people James describes who look upon a brother or sister and say, "Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding they give them not those things which are needful." (James 2:16) James' equivalent of my "where are they now" is seen in the touching question, that follows, "what doth it profit?" (ibid) The answer of course, it profits nothing!
If we are to be true shepherds we must remember that each lamb, is a precious son or daughter of God deeply loved by Him, and not withstanding the doctrines of predestination or perpetual salvation, we still owe to all those whom we have brought to the light, the care, concern, counsel and love of a true shepherd. "
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I agree that the article is an insider view of the situation; but, so what? That's what we like to discuss here.
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This article is worthy of discussion.
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I think it begs an important point of popular so-called Christianity today.
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-- posted by pink101

» pink101 - Brian's Star

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I see Brian already has a star in his crown.
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:)
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - Brian's Star

In response to Brian's Star posted by pink101:

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Hee hee. He deserved it for putting up with us in his topic. (wink)

-- posted by Migisi

» pink101 - Brian's Star

In response to Brian's Star posted by Migisi:
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Out of the mouth's of babes...
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You ARE a babe, are you not?
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - Brian's Star

In response to Brian's Star posted by pink101:

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Oh yeah... albeit an old one. Tee hee.

-- posted by Migisi