Protestantism

» pink101 - Liberals really aren't very ready for the Heaven experience.

In response to Liberals really aren't very ready for the Heaven experience. posted by Brother_Jones:
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I think a portion of the problem with the Liberal view of heaven is a practical one
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I am sick and tired of anti-liberal rhetoric being spun out by people of low intelligence who have--somehow--learned to used words with more than two syllables.
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A paper thin barrier exists in their mind that keeps them from learning the history of the human struggle; otherwise, they would never find fault with liberals again.
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But, they have errected this paper thin barrier in their brain that keeps them from learning the history of their own culture.
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Please answer this one question for me, Brother Jones: "Does the idea of learning about the history of the struggle between conservativism and progressive thinking sound exciting to you?"
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-- posted by pink101

» _Boanerges_ - For some....

In response to Bio-Tech posted by Migisi:

For some, I think there comes a point after a long life when death is okay and even desired. Suffering aside, when everyone you knew and loved is dead and buried, there's a strong desire to join them in the afterlife (if you believe in it).

I agree, Mig... I think its okie to say, to admit, that "everlasting" on Earth, as we are now, is not acceptable. It would, in effect, become a hell on earth...

this is one reason why I believe the Gospel message...

-- posted by _Boanerges_

» Brother_Jones - Liberals really aren't very ready for the Heaven experience.

In response to Liberals really aren't very ready for the Heaven experience. posted by pink101:

I am sick and tired of anti-liberal rhetoric being spun out by people of low intelligence who have--somehow--learned to used words with more than two syllables.

I guess you are targeting me with these statements. Is there some reason to call attention to my low intelligence? I never tried to convince anyone that I was particularly smart.

Please answer this one question for me, Brother Jones: "Does the idea of learning about the history of the struggle between conservativism and progressive thinking sound exciting to you?"

I'm not sure how to answer the question. I'm limited as I have already admitted in the above response. Are you being hardnosed just for the purpose of demonstrating that you are a smarter person?

i'm just an oldtimer for the Lord.

-- posted by Brother_Jones

» pink101 - Liberals really aren't very ready for the Heaven experience.

In response to Liberals really aren't very ready for the Heaven experience. posted by Brother_Jones:
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I asked Brother Jones,
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Please answer this one question for me, Brother Jones: "Does the idea of learning about the history of the struggle between conservativism and progressive thinking sound exciting to you?"
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And, he answered with,
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I'm not sure how to answer the question. I'm limited as I have already admitted in the above response. Are you being hardnosed just for the purpose of demonstrating that you are a smarter person?
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No. I'm merely asking you if some study on the history of the struggle between conservativism and liberalism is exciting to you? Your failure to answer that question would seem to connote you already know all you ever want to know about the subject.
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By the way, if you want to throw yourself in with the general group of people who have a low intelligence, well, I guess that's up to you. I make no such judgement of you; but, I wonder why you have this paper thin barrier to learning some truth about your history. You seem to hate liberalism with a passion.
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-- posted by pink101

» Brother_Jones - Liberals really aren't very ready for the Heaven experience.

In response to Liberals really aren't very ready for the Heaven experience. posted by pink101:

I asked Brother Jones,

What an absolute joker you are. Start out with an insulting remark to my intelligence, then ask a serious question. Then come back with the appearance of being insulted yourself for a non-answer.
Look, I do that myself sometimes. But hopefully, I'm man enough to admit a mistake from time to time in these debates. I'm beginning to wonder about you and whether it might be time for you to go somepace else other than a religious area to strutt your insulting stuff about any and all Christian belief.

i am just an oldtimer for the Lord.

-- posted by Brother_Jones

» pink101 - Have You Figured It Out, Yet?

In response to Liberals really aren't very ready for the Heaven experience. posted by Brother_Jones:
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Having spent little or no time in prayer, worship, study of scripture, sharing, and fellowship that there is an almost empty headed notion of what purpose heaven might be. It doesn't have much of anything to do with Jesus because most Liberals don't count Him as important enough to spend a year contemplating His message, much less an eternity in His presence.
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There is an expression here, Brother Jones, being made by certain participants about how they look at the stories you swallow hook, line, and sinker.
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Have you figured it out, yet?
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The way it looks to me is that most of us have been just as deeply involved in the beliefs of Christianity as has anyone else who particpates here--except for a few who have only a little depth and have only been so-called Christians for less than ten years or so.
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I made my decision for Jesus sixty-eight years ago in a Fundamentalist Baptist Bible based church, Brother Jones. How old are you?
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From what I've seen Ollie, Migisi, and Paper Turtle have been involved in Christianity for many decades--maybe thirty, forty, or fifty years or more? We are not novices. We have given Christianity our deepest considerations and thoughts. But, you insult us with your pomposities about your greatness and your distaste for our liberal minded ways.
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What kind of treatment do you expect from us if we are to let you know how we honestly feel about the way you treat us?
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Huh?
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Anyone with a small sense of reason can tell that Migisi and Sister Turtle are spending more time in the study of the Bible here at Suite101.com than most churched Americans do in their entire lifetime. You insult their honest efforts. Even Jeff and Ollie are busy at it. And, they aren't getting their ideas out of some lesson give by a radio preacher's recordings or fund raising letters.
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-- posted by pink101

» Migisi - Have You Figured It Out, Yet?

In response to Have You Figured It Out, Yet? posted by pink101:
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From what I've seen Ollie, Migisi, and Paper Turtle have been involved in Christianity for many decades--maybe thirty, forty, or fifty years or more?
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Can't speak for others, but yes, I've been heavily 'involved' in Christianity ALL of my life - from birth. So, when Jones goes off on his usual 'liberal' tangent about me "having spent little or no time in prayer, worship, study of scripture, sharing, and fellowship' - well, it's laughable and not worth a reply.

-- posted by Migisi

» pink101 - Have You Figured It Out, Yet?

In response to Have You Figured It Out, Yet? posted by Migisi:
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"...it's laughable and not worth a reply."
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I could almost agree with you on that; but, carefully read what he is saying and complaining about in his last several posts.
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His thinking is representative of a major problem in the world today--religionism.
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Islam is spreading in the middle east. Stories on the news, today, are reporting that radical Muslims are exerting heavy political influence in Turkey.
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History is repeating itself.
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-- posted by pink101

» Brother_Jones - Have You Figured It Out, Yet?

In response to Have You Figured It Out, Yet? posted by Migisi:

So, when Jones goes off on his usual 'liberal' tangent about me

So you take my words out of context and then assume your folks understand because it is good day to focus on me as a pretty worthless Christian. Tomorrow it will be Brian, or maybe back to Wendell. Good job, Migisi. Your a big help here.

Any ideas about how you want to spend your first hour in heaven?

i'm just an oldtimer for the Lord.

-- posted by Brother_Jones

» paper_turtle - Have You Figured It Out, Yet?

In response to Have You Figured It Out, Yet? posted by Migisi:

I knew God, and had a relationship with God, before I "officially" became a Christian by joining the Methodist church at the age of 17 (1962). I don't remember a time when God was *not* a part of my life.
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In grade school I began reading the Bible. I read about other religions. I read about people like Albert Schweitzer and Gandhi.
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I became a serious student of the Bible in 1970--and still continued to study other religions (Native American, Australian Aboriginal, Buddhism, Taoism, and the mystics of Judaism and Catholicism).
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I haven't stopped studying or being actively involved. I don't intend to, ever. I was a "liberal" as a child, and still am, and always will be.
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

-- posted by paper_turtle