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» Twice__Pardoned - Your Economic Identity

In response to Your Economic Identity posted by pink101:

Twice now you've said that... brainwashed???

Considering I don't listen to talk radio, watch the news or read the newspaper I am confused how brainwashing is possible.

In fact since I last frequented this place I have not even engaged in debate of any sort. I spent the last year or 2 raising my family... Wendell can even attest to this since I rarely see him anymore either.
(He is a good friend but I am the one too busy at this moment in life, so just know that he is an available friend. Just FYI)

I know who I am, I am a working class guy who's raising a family and trying to build a comfortable life for myself.
Hope to buy 10 acres, build my log home, have a good size garden/greenhouse, build my own waterwell, power my house with a combination of Solar and Wind, have hardwood/cement floors, heat with radiant heat and pellet... yada yada yada... In fact the Neo Cons call me a liberal!?!?!?!? SO who am I... just a guy with a family.

-- posted by Twice__Pardoned

» paper_turtle - Defending the USA (poverty)

In response to Defending the USA (poverty) posted by pink101:

Yuppers--they're pretty scarce right now. Many jobs which in the past might have been available are not handled through Vista, and Vista pays at the poverty level (so that their workers will have an appreciation for the lives of the people they serve). That's fine for a young person who's just starting out and doesn't already have a substantial debt load, but not so great for someone in my position.
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

-- posted by paper_turtle

» Twice__Pardoned - Your Economic Identity

In response to Your Economic Identity posted by Brother_Jones:

those who get up in the morning and give hell to the government and religion with every coffee sip.

=)

hehehe

I don't get the Mother church deal either but yeah I get this ^^^^

-- posted by Twice__Pardoned

» Twice__Pardoned - Defending the USA (poverty)

In response to Defending the USA (poverty) posted by paper_turtle:

I knew this would eventually come into play... age.

So how old are you then? And 'what' happened if I may ask.

-- posted by Twice__Pardoned

» pink101 - Brainwashed.

In response to Your Economic Identity posted by Twice__Pardoned:
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You are a person who stands on the shoulders of those who came before you and who struggled to upgrade what is possible for ordinary people. You're no different from those people in your neighborhood who sleep until noon except for some chance of fortune. But, you think the system is fair for those who are willing to work hard so that they can aquire some of the goodies that are held out to you. And, it appears from what you're published here in your last few posts that you think your achievements are due solely to your efforts and it seems you pride yourself in those achievements. Where did you get those ideas on which you operate?
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Why don't you just go to college to earn a master's degree in business administration while you support your family with your monthly $7,500.00 endowment from your family's trust fund your grand daddy set aside for all his descendents? When you graduate with your Master's Degree, one of your family connections will get you well positioned in one of the corporations they control. And, those people who sleep until noon? They can eat cake.
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-- posted by pink101

» Brother_Jones - Defending the USA (poverty)

In response to Defending the USA (poverty) posted by pink101:

So, what is the "real Mother Church"?.

Retirees who have dropped out of any productive work and spend their days playing golf and complaining and whining about everything in their life. We have a pretty large group of them here in the Austin area at Del Webb's Sun City. They really are pretty funny when they start in about their 'worthless' kids. I think they stay up late at night to come up with new adjectives for their children.

i am just an oldtimer for the Lord.

-- posted by Brother_Jones

» paper_turtle - Defending the USA (poverty)

In response to Defending the USA (poverty) posted by Twice__Pardoned:

I will be 62 on the 16th of May.
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My husband (of nearly 20 years, at the time) left me for another woman.
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peace and love,
Paper Turtle

-- posted by paper_turtle

» pink101 - The Mother Church

In response to Defending the USA (poverty) posted by Brother_Jones:
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You mean like George Herbert Walker and Barbara Bush?
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:)
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As for me, I'm trying to promote an interest in American History.
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And, you? You're still accumulating economic advantages?
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-- posted by pink101

» Twice__Pardoned - Brainwashed.

In response to Brainwashed. posted by pink101:

Wow, I'm gonna have to take this one line by line...

You are a person who stands on the shoulders of those who came before you and who struggled to upgrade what is possible for ordinary people

Like the pioneers? sure... like the industrialists? sure we all are.

You're no different from those people in your neighborhood who sleep until noon except for some chance of fortune. But, you think the system is fair for those who are willing to work hard so that they can aquire some of the goodies that are held out to you.

What??? fortune??? held out to me???
I think you're confused with someone else. I'm thankful for what I have, so I'm not complaining here BUT I make the least amount of money in my entire office and am the only the one who is still married to my only wife and am raising my own kids.
I'm still lost by this fortune thing though... what fortunate thing has happened to me?

And, it appears from what you're published here in your last few posts that you think your achievements are due solely to your efforts and it seems you pride yourself in those achievements. Where did you get those ideas on which you operate?

I am not sure what you're talking about still... what achievements and fortune?

Why don't you just go to college to earn a master's degree in business administration while you support your family with your monthly $7,500.00 endowment from your family's trust fund your grand daddy set aside for all his descendents? When you graduate with your Master's Degree, one of your family connections will get you well positioned in one of the corporations they control. And, those people who sleep until noon? They can eat cake.

hahah seriously this must be a joke or something... I don't earn anywhere CLOSE to 7,500 a month.. and I've never seen a trust fund in my life.

I have a friend who apparently has some college money from his grand father and he seems like he's well off but that's the closest to 'money' I've ever seen.

Rest assured, what little I have I have indeed earned, and I'm thankfull that I live in a place where I am able to. I could be severely handicapped and not able to work. So I am thankful but is there some sort of confusion about who I am...??? I mean there is only 1 Twice__pardoned here right?

-- posted by Twice__Pardoned

» Twice__Pardoned - Defending the USA (poverty)

In response to Defending the USA (poverty) posted by paper_turtle:

I always insist on public declarations so forgive me if I go too far I don't wish to make anything odd or uncomfortable for you.

Let me say that I do sympathize with you, and I also know that sympathy is not what you want. I am sorry that you were hurt by this man you probably loved your entire life (till then perhaps).

My Mother was the wife of my Dad for 20+ years as well when he left her, me and siblings for another woman. I was 15 so I wasn't young. My Mother was only 45 at the time (it's been almost 10 years now) and it devestated everything we knew.

She had no home or job because he made ALL the money. She was forced to move to KC to be near a few family members. She lived on Welfare for 3 months and worked her way into a good position over the least 10 years. She is building a 401K and doesn't have much though.

I am hoping she doesn't get sick before I am able to promote into a job making alot more money because who else is going to take care of her??? I love my Mother and I HATE what my Father did!

I can't be your child though, I don't know if you even have children... and I agree that there are exceptions to this welfare situation but the economy has little to do with it... PEOPLE have most to do with it.

People don't need welfare because jobs aren't out there... they welfare because they were devestated... they need hope... they need help and I believ that they should get that help. In fact more help would have been available to the poor in New Orleans had not politicians abused the money! These kind of times can be hard and I don't blame the poor alone.

-- posted by Twice__Pardoned