Protestantism

» pink101 - The Source

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The source of all existence?
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This is the mystery with which we are faced. It can fascinate us to abstraction. People can go ecstatic thinking of the possibilities. Life is beautiful and offers us unbounded possibilities for joy--even bliss. There are almost unimaginable works of art dedicated to God. The Islamic beauties of architecture are well known results of man's belief in god. Music, paintings, prose and poetry flow from the minds of people entrhalled of god and gods.
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No person in their right mind can deny the value of what it means to believe in the divine--the higher power to which men aspire.
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But, like every good teacher knows, there is a bell curve availble for marking. Atrocities are performed in the name of god and gods. 911 was such an act. And, our response in Iraq is another. And the troubles in Palestine are all built around the idea of man's belief in god.
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In retrospect, the supreme source that created the universe doesn't fit in very well with the arrogance of men who kill each other in the name of whatever god they claim is the one and only true god.
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Science is gradually unfolding more and more knowledge about the universe. When we learn truth, it sets us free from that to which we are in bondage--even our most profoundly held beliefs. This freedom is liberty.
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-- posted by pink101

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» Brian Tubbs - The Source

In response to The Source posted by pink101:

pink, I agree with most of what you've written here. Science and reason have freed many people from superstition and blind dogma. I applaud that.

I also agree with you (and with Messrs. Madison and Jefferson) that, the mysteries of religious faith being what they are, we must recognize that "Almighty God created the mind free." Therefore, we must uphold the right of people to worship God (or gods) in their own way - or not at all.

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» pink101 - The Source

In response to The Source posted by BrianTubbs:
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Thanks.
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It's good to relate with a man of honor.
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-- posted by pink101

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» EvilChihuahua - Einstein

In response to Einstein posted by BrianTubbs:

I guess you're right. I read a qoute where he said he did believe in a Divine Being, so I guess Agnostic isn't the right word.:)

-- posted by EvilChihuahua

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» pink101 - Einstein

In response to Einstein posted by TheJesusFreak:
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If you mean Einstein believed in a "Divine" being, I think you will have to show your source on that one.
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I understand that he believed in a creator.
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-- posted by pink101

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» hawknut - Einstein

In response to Einstein posted by pink101:

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly." -Albert Einstein
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"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein
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"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension, nor do I wish it otherwise; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls. -Albert Einstein (The World as I See It, 1949)
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"Those who wish to seek out the cause of miracles, and to understand the things of nature as philosophers, and not to stare at them in astonishment like fools, are soon considered heretical and impious, and proclaimed as such by those whom the mob adores as the interpreters of nature and the gods. For these men know that once ignorance is put aside that wonderment would be taken away which is the only means by which their authority is preserved." - Spinoza

-- posted by hawknut

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» pink101 - Erata

Duplicate post, please ignore.

-- posted by pink101

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» pink101 - What Einstein Said:

In response to Einstein posted by hawknut:
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Here is what Einstein said, "I don't try to imagine a personal God; it suffices to stand in awe at the sturcture of the world, insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to appreciate it."
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-- posted by pink101

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» Brian Tubbs - Essentially....

In response to What Einstein Said: posted by pink101:

Einstein would have agreed with the basic premise of my article that the universe defies atheist. It is illogical to have an uncaused cosmos. Something or someone is responsible for our being here.

However...I wouldn't take Einstein any further than that. He did NOT believe in the God of the Bible - or anything close to that. He was no Christian. Not even a Theist per se. He was more a Deist in the Enlightenment sense - that is if you can even affix a label to him.

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» EvilChihuahua - Essentially....

In response to Essentially.... posted by BrianTubbs:

It is illogical to have an uncaused cosmos.

Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Every High School Science class teaches that.:)

-- posted by EvilChihuahua

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