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1.   Sep 28, 2006 8:56 AM

» PhiloProf - I disagree with Censoring


Mr. Tubbs,

Regardless of my belief system I agree with your statement that the censoring of Veggie Tales in wrong. In fact it violates the 1st ammendment.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Keep Thinking,
PhiloProf
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-- posted by PhiloProf

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2.   Sep 29, 2006 6:52 PM

» Feature Writer Brian Tubbs - I disagree with Censoring

In response to I disagree with Censoring posted by PhiloProf:


Well...I'm torn on the legality of censorship in this context.

As a free-market capitalist, I'll grant that NBC, as a corporation, has the right to make decisions on its programming choices. Not sure the First Amendment applies to them, except...

As a citizen, I am still undecided on the notion of the "public airwaves" (and THAT is a huge debate there - big can of worms).

My beef with NBC isn't so much a First Amendment issue as it is a commercial art issue. The "Veggie Tales" is a Christian cartoon series. If NBC is going to broadcast them, then it should do so - as they are. It's one thing to edit a movie for graphic sex scenes, but to edit a cartoon for religious purposes (when you've already made the decision to PURCHASE the cartoon - knowing what it is)...that doesn't make any sense to me.

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3.   Sep 30, 2006 6:49 AM

» pink101 - I disagree with Censoring

In response to I disagree with Censoring posted by BrianTubbs:
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"....that doesn't make any sense to me. "
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Except that it's a free country--especially if one is a free market capitalist.
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Editing is not the same as censorship.
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Censorship is a process of governmental interference with speech and the press.
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People who own something have the right to limit their expression of it.
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-- posted by pink101

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4.   Sep 30, 2006 9:34 AM

» Feature Writer Brian Tubbs - I agree, Pink, but...

In response to I disagree with Censoring posted by pink101:


Like I said, as a free market capitalist, I support NBC's right to determine its programming and edit that programming to its heart's content. That is not my beef - although I retain an open mind :-) on the "public airwaves" component of this discussion.

My big beef is on WHY NBC would feel it necessary to edit "Veggie Tales." From an artistic and commercial standpoint, it makes no sense to me - other than the possibility that NBC is institutionally biased against Christianity.

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5.   Sep 30, 2006 12:20 PM

» pink101 - I agree, Pink, but...

In response to I agree, Pink, but... posted by BrianTubbs:
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"...the possibility that NBC is institutionally biased against Christianity."
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I don't know anything about "Veggie Tales"; but, unless the version of Christianity is very pro-jewish the media is usually against it.
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-- posted by pink101

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6.   Oct 4, 2006 6:19 PM

» EvilChihuahua - I disagree with Censoring

In response to I disagree with Censoring posted by PhiloProf:


I agree. It's like doing a documentry on Charles Darwin without mentioning his theory of Evolution.

-- posted by EvilChihuahua

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7.   Oct 6, 2006 8:24 AM

» PhiloProf - Editing

In response to I disagree with Censoring posted by pink101:


Everyone in this discussion should take a look at the documentary called "This movie is yet Unrated" It disusses the rating system of the movie industry. THe process works like this...
You submit a movie, they view it and say you have to much ... in it. They do not tell you what to cut out, so you then become your own censor/editor.
You resubmit the movie and then they may or may not pass it on.
If a movie is controversial or frowned upon by the movie industry they can slap a NC17 on it and that kills the distribution of it.
What is funny about this movie is that, guess what, the Rating Group rated it NC17!
Once you see the movie please let me know what you think.
Keep Thinking,
PhiloProf
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8.   Oct 6, 2006 8:31 AM

» pink101 - Editing

In response to Editing posted by PhiloProf:
Where is the documentary aired?
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I can't find it on the 'Net.

-- posted by pink101

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9.   Oct 6, 2006 2:31 PM

» PhiloProf - This Film Is Not Yet Rated

In response to Editing posted by pink101:


Pink101,

Sorry I substituted MOVIE for FILM. Here is the IMDB Link
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0493459/
and here is the official link

http://www3.ifctv.com/thisfilm/about.php

Respect,
PhiloProf

-- posted by PhiloProf

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10.   Oct 6, 2006 2:46 PM

» pink101 - This Film Is Not Yet Rated

In response to This Film Is Not Yet Rated posted by PhiloProf:
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I would have to drive 150 miles to see the movie.
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Is it to be released on DVD? Do you know?
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I watched the trailer and would like to see it. But, I don't know that I would go to the expense of driving that distance.
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-- posted by pink101

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